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Young Joey makes it into the literature!

...for some value of "the literature." See
http://itre.cis.upenn.edu/~myl/languagelog/archives/001133.html#more, about halfway down in the discussion of the "Retart Zone".
  

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[/nq] The entire article, both parts, is well worth reading. It covers a number of AUE shibboleths with much good sense. I hope there's some way to get it into the AUE FAQ materials, preferably in searchable fashion.

  • [/nq] The entire article, both parts, is well worth reading.
  • It covers a number of AUE shibboleths with much good sense.
  • I hope there's some way to get it into the AUE FAQ materials, preferably in searchable fashion.
  • Thanks for pointing it out, Richard.
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[nq:1]...for some value of "the literature." See http://itre.cis.upenn.edu/~myl/languagelog/archives/001133.html#more, about halfway down in the discussion of the "Retart Zone".[/nq]
The entire article, both parts, is well worth reading. It covers a number of AUE shibboleths with
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[nq:2]...for some value of "the literature." See http://itre.cis.upenn.edu/~myl/languagelog/archives/001133.html#more, about halfway down in the discussion of the "Retart Zone".[/nq]
[nq:1]The entire article, both parts, is well worth reading. It covers a number of AUE shibboleths
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[nq:2]...for some value of "the literature." See http://itre.cis.upenn.edu/~myl/languagelog/archives/001133.html#more, about halfway down in the discussion of the "Retart Zone".[/nq]
[nq:1]The entire article, both parts, is well worth reading. It covers a number of AUE shibboleths
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[nq:2]The entire article, both parts, is well worth reading. It ... it into the AUE FAQ materials, preferably in searchable fashion.[/nq]
[nq:1]I'd never heard the "hone in on"/"home on in" debate before - it's always been 'hone' for me.[/nq]
I'd never heard this debate either, but my first thought was "How could it be 'hone', when the derivation is clearly from 'homing', as in pigeons?" L
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[nq:1]Most people who say "between you and I" do so because the people who were their language models said "between ... upon one's intelligence, and only a very few people say the variants in question because they are re-inventing the usage.[/nq]
I suspect that this is true of nearly all the usage maven Usual Suspects, once a brief period of initial adoption is past. The vast majority of langu
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[nq:1]I'd never heard the "hone in on"/"home on in" debate before - it's always been 'hone' for me. OTOH, I'd only become aware of the "another thing coming" thru AUE, but what shocked me here were the google counts.[/nq]
Many people call them purists if you like frown about such shortenings as 'thru' for 'through', 'tho' for 'though', and 'nite' for night. I'm less often joined by those who l
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[nq:1]Most people who say "between you and I" do so because the people who were their language models said "between ... upon one's intelligence, and only a very few people say the variants in question because they are re-inventing the usage.[/nq]
I know you're right, for irritating as 'between you and I' is, one of the best educated persons in Westport I know uses it all the time. Educated in
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[nq:2]I'd never heard the "hone in on"/"home on in" debate before - it's always been 'hone' for me.[/nq]
[nq:1]I'd never heard this debate either, but my first thought was "How could it be 'hone', when the derivation is ... never considered anything other than 'home'. But then I've always said (and thought) another 'thing' coming, so there you go.[/nq]
Merriam-Webster sides with you:
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[nq:1]Merriam-Webster sides with you: Main Entry: hone in Function: intransitive verb Etymology: alteration of home in Date: 1965 : to ... especially in writing is likely to be called a mistake. Home in or in figurative use zero in does nicely.[/nq]
Yes. I used here, and it resulted in a great OY!ing.
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[nq:2]I'd never heard the "hone in on"/"home on in" debate before - it's always been 'hone' for me.[/nq]
[nq:1]I'd never heard this debate either, but my first thought was "How could it be 'hone', when the derivation is ... never considered anything other than 'home'. But then I've always said (and thought) another 'thing' coming, so there you go.[/nq]
OK, then. During the day I've been wo

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