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Anonymous Posted 18 years ago
Grammar

You and I vs. You and me

In the song "When doves cry" by Prince, this is the first line:

"Dig if you will a picture, of you and I engaged in a kiss."

I've been wondering for a long time if this is grammatically correct. The first half of the statement would lead me to believe that it should be "you and me", but the second half should be "you and I". I'm stumped. Someone please help me...

Prince fan with a problem
  

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"A picture of you and me [who are] engaged in a kiss" Of is a preposition and thus the object form of the personal pronoun is required. The me/I is not a subject and so there is no grammatical reason for I. The grammatical subject (who) has been left out.

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  • "A picture of you and me [who are] engaged in a kiss" Of is a preposition and thus the object form of the personal pronoun is required.
  • The me/I is not a subject and so there is no grammatical reason for I.
  • The grammatical subject (who) has been left out.
  • CB
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"A picture of you and me [who are] engaged in a kiss"
Of is a preposition and thus the object form of the personal pronoun is required. The me/I is not a subject and so there is no grammatical reason for I. The grammatical subject (who) has been left out.
CB
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This article explains when to say "you and I" and when to say "you and me". Consider the following sentence: You and I should have lunch.

Is the correct form of this sentence "You and I ..." or "You and me ..."? This is a common source of confusion in English.

Fortunately, there's an easy way to decide whether to use "I" or "me" in such sentences. All you have to do is d
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Thank you so much. What would the complete sentence look like? Are there any commas or semi-colons in it?
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Oh! one more thought I forgot to mention....
Song lyrics should not be depnded upon as a source of correct grammar, especially in the rap, rock and heavy metal variety as they are often written by
people whose minds are not oriented for correct English.
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If you want good grammar, I suggest classical music. Emotion: wink
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I would not profess to be an expert in English grammar but "people whose minds are not oriented for correct English" sounds not only pompous but incorrect !  The verb "orient" is more commonly used with the prepositions "to" or "towards".  Maybe it would be better to say "people whose main focus is not English grammar".
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KooyeenIf you want good grammar, I suggest classical music.
OMG! LOL! That one really tickled me. What would you recommend? Vivaldi's The Seasons?
CJ
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