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Jack112 Posted 21 years ago
Grammar

Yet

I remember reading that I should use present perfect with 'yet'.

So is #2 only correct? Or #1 is as well, it is idiomatic?

1. Tony doesn't know your are back yet?

2. Tony hasn't known your are back yet?

Thanks.
  

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I believe the thought should be written: Tony doesn't yet know that you're back. Or-- Tony doesn't know yet that you're back.

— Davkett

  • I believe the thought should be written: Tony doesn't yet know that you're back.
  • Or-- Tony doesn't know yet that you're back.
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I believe the thought should be written:

Tony doesn't yet know that you're back.

Or--

Tony doesn't know yet that you're back.
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Interesting. In BrE, you can also put the "yet" at the end of the sentence:

1. Tony doesn't know you're back yet.

The present perfect seems unidiomatic with "know" and "yet"; though it's required in these examples:

2. Tony hasn't yet cleaned his car.

3. Tony hasn't said whether he's coming yet.

4. Tony hasn't been arrested yet.

MrP
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Google is not really on my side with this, (and neither is my own experience of everyday speech). Although googling finds massive evidence for 'know yet...' and 'yet know...', there is equal evidence for 'know...back yet'.

Thus, I withdraw my revision in the post above, since it appears to be unwarranted...which should prove to make the matter less interesting now.
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