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Chimera Posted 19 years ago
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Ye Olde Saxons

0The Saxons are having computyre problemf, so I am looking for etymologists here.02br
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00A link with Brahma of the Indo-European tribes is seen in IE brih "praise.expand" > Tocharian bramn.kte "Brahma god", Persian /Sanskrit braman(i)ya "reverently", Russian / Polish /German bram "ship top-mast" for admirals' and state flags, OSwed bram "state.pomp" and OE breme. 02br
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01b00(quote)"bréman02b00; 01i00part.02i00 brémende; 01i00p.02i00 de; 01i00pp.02i00 ed; 01i00v. a.02i00 [bréme 01i00celebrated02i00] 01i00To celebrate, solemnise, make famous, have in honour;02i00 celebrare, honorare:-Ðæt hie ðæt hálige gerýne bréman mǽgen 01i00that they may celebrate the holy mystery02i00 [i.e. 01i00the sacrament02i00], L. E. I, 4; Th. ii. 404, 27. Á brémende 01i00ever celebrating,02i00 Exon. 13 a; Th. 24, 20; Cri. 387. We ðec, hálig Drihten, gebédum brémaþ 01i00we celebrate thee, holy Lord, in our prayers,02i00 Cd. 192; Th. 241, 17; Dan. 406: Menol. Fox 186; Men. 94. Bodiaþ and brémaþ beorhtne geleáfan 01i00preach and make famous bright belief,02i00 Exon. 14 b; Th. 30, 21; Cri: 483. 00DER.00 ge-bréman."(end quote)02br
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00"Breman maegen" (in line 3 of quote) suggests the Persian magi priests, "revered". Perhaps the Saxons and Celts were generic brahmins as "praisers". "Drihten" in line 4 sounds a bit suspicious, too. What say you?02br
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0 This etymology is not in the 05000 or the 05100; where did you get it from? 02br 02br 00I'm not sure how "Drihten" is suspicious. comcOED

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  • 0 This etymology is not in the 05000 or the 05100; where did you get it from?
  • 02br 02br 00I'm not sure how "Drihten" is suspicious.
  • comcOED
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0 This etymology is not in the 05000 or the 05100; where did you get it from? Also, AIUI word-initial PIE /b/ became Germanic /p/, so deriving 01i00breme02i00 from 01i00*brih-02i00 doesn't work.02br
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00I'm not sure how "Drihten" is suspicious. What do you mean exactly?0230hrefhttp://www.bartleby.com/61/IEroo
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*71*0 00Hi Alienvoord,00I googled "bram" /brahm/ which I found in Ger. dict., and found:01a01span00JSTOR: Germanic Etymologies02span02a01table01tr01td
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0 00OK, I'm not sure where to look here. Could you please give me the source that links "breme" with "Brahman"? I'm very skeptical.02br
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00It seems that b did not>p in this case , as "premium" is
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0Here are some quotes:02br
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00The name is derived from the root 01b00brih02b00 meaning “to grow” or “to expand”. 01b00...02b00 01b00brahmin02b00: the first caste in the ancient Vedic social system of priests and 01b
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10Thanks.02br
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01b00brih02b00 is not a Proto-Indo-European root. I assume that it is an Indo-Aryan root. If OE 01b00breme02b00 is related, it means the Anglo-Saxons had contact with t
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0The quote above about Swedish Vikings in Baghdad is part of the story. The "Danu" rivers are also. Scythians of IA tribes, and fellow Kamboja tribes, were in the Pamir region (north of Afghanistan) of mythic Mount Meru the home of Brahmin gods. Hurrians in the Caucasus 1400 BCE evidently had a Brahmin leadership, from deity names recorded in a treaty. Scythians moved west and raided Poland in
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0 Well I can't help you with much of that. I do know that Sanskrit 01b00brahmā 02b00ब्रह्मा is not of Indo-European origin. And 01b00Saxon 02b00is probably from the PIE root 01b00*sek-02b00 "to cut". 0-
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