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If trump wins, he will deport all illegal immigrants.Vs.  If trump won, he would deport all illegal immigrants. What's the difference in meaning? Both looks the same meaning to me. Please help.

CalifJim · Accepted Answer

AnonymousIf Trump wins, he will deport all illegal immigrants.Vs. If Trump won, he would deport all illegal immigrants.

'wins' ... 'will' ... represents a real situation.
'won' ... 'would' ... represents an imagined situation.

At the time you are writing this, the U.S. election is only a few weeks away, so the situation is real, and you use the first. Two years ago, before Trump was definitely a candidate, you could have used the second version in a conversation in which you were speculating about the possibility that Trump might be a candidate and about what he would do if he were a candidate and eventually won the presidency.

CJ

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CalifJim AnonymousIf Trump wins, he will deport all illegal immigrants.Vs. If Trump won, he would deport all illegal immigrants.'wins' ... 'will' ... represents a real situation.'won' ... 'would' ... represents an imagined situation.At the time you are writing this, the U.S. election is only a few weeks away, so the situation is real, and you use the first. Two years ago, before Trump was definitely a candidate, you could have used the second version in a conversation in which you were speculating about the possibility that Trump might be a candidate and about what he would do if he were a candidate and eventually won the presidency.CJ

I heard the second sentence on Facebook two weeks ago where Clinton writes, 'Trump would deport all the immigrants.' At the time she was saying, it was real situation too. So, why did she wrote the sentense with would?

CalifJim · Answer

Anonymouswhy did she ~~wrote~~ write the ~~sentense~~ sentence with "would"?

She was imagining a Trump win in her own mind.

CJ

Anonymous · Answer

CalifJim Anonymouswhy did she wrote write the sentense sentence with "would"?She was imagining a Trump win in her own mind.CJ

So, that means she was thinking Trump is not going to win?

Anonymous · Answer

Or in her mind she thinks he is not going to win?

AlpheccaStars · Answer

AnonymousOr in her mind she thinks he is not going to win?

We cannot say what she is thinking about winning or losing. She was warning the voters:

If you want all the illegal immigrants to be deported, vote for Mr. Trump. That's what he would do if he won.
If you think that is a bad idea, vote for me. I would not do that if I won.

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CalifJim AnonymousIf Trump wins, he will deport all illegal immigrants.Vs. If Trump won, he would deport all illegal immigrants.'wins' ... 'will' ... represents a real situation.'won' ... 'would' ... represents an imagined situation.At the time you are writing this, the U.S. election is only a few weeks away, so the situation is real, and you use the first. Two years ago, before Trump was definitely a candidate, you could have used the second version in a conversation in which you were speculating about the possibility that Trump might be a candidate and about what he would do if he were a candidate and eventually won the presidency.CJ

I just saw the sentence on CNN, 'Trump would push to repeal Obama care on day one'. Isnt it supposed to be 'will' according to you. If he wins, he will push to repeal Obamacare on day one. the situation is real. So, that means CNN is wrong?

Tamguatlay · Answer

Anonymous Clinton writes, 'Trump would deport all the immigrants.'

Clinton did not think that Trump will win. That's why she uses 'would'.

CalifJim · Answer

AnonymousI just saw the sentence on CNN, 'Trump would push to repeal Obama care on day one'. Isnt it supposed to be 'will' according to you.

Not necessarily. CNN is thinking hypothetically, I suppose. Maybe they are not thinking of a Trump win in terms of a real possibility. Your choice depends on what's in your mind when you say these things.

AnonymousSo, that means CNN is wrong?

This question shows that you're thinking about the whole problem the wrong way. Nobody is going to be able to give you a set of rules that allows you to choose "the right answer" for every situation you ever encounter in real life. As I said above, you say what's in your mind when you speak. So where one person might use "will", another might use "would". That just means they are thinking of the situation in different ways.

CJ

Anonymous · Answer

So, you mean both sentences below are possible? In the first sentence, the speaker thinks Trump winning the presidency is not a real possibility and in the second sentence, the speaker thinks Trump winning the presidency is a real possibility. Is that what you are saying?

A: If Trump won, he would push to repeal Obamacare on day one.
B: If trump wins, he will push to repeal Obamacare on day one.

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