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Hanuman_2000 Posted 20 years ago
Grammar
would
Hello,
1. He did not wake up even if we shook him hard.
I have to use "would" in the above sentence to indicate regular action ,was taken in past.
a) He would not wake up even if we shook him hard.
b) He did not wake up even if we would shake him hard.
2. In the morning, he slept until eleven o'clock.
a) In the mornig, he would sleep until eleven o'clock.
Please check and correct it.
1. He did not wake up even if we shook him hard.
I have to use "would" in the above sentence to indicate regular action ,was taken in past.
a) He would not wake up even if we shook him hard.
b) He did not wake up even if we would shake him hard.
2. In the morning, he slept until eleven o'clock.
a) In the mornig, he would sleep until eleven o'clock.
Please check and correct it.
Top answer
Don't combine if with would . 1b is wrong. Otherwise, OK.
- Don't combine if with would .
- 1b is wrong.
- Otherwise, OK.
- CJ
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a) He would not wake up even if we shook him hard. OK. Note that "would not" refers to wake up.
b) He did not wake up even if we would shake him hard. No. Note how would refers to shake and that that is not the idea you want to express.
a) In the morning, he would sleep until ele
b) He did not wake up even if we would shake him hard. No. Note how would refers to shake and that that is not the idea you want to express.
a) In the morning, he would sleep until ele
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Even 1b is grammatically correct. It is normally all right to combine if with would when if does not express colorless condition. In your sentence even if could be replaced with even though. More examples of if and would in the same clause:
If you would kindly wait a minute, I'll call Mrs Smith.
You would learn it if you would try.
If you would kindly wait a minute, I'll call Mrs Smith.
You would learn it if you would try.
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I have never heard that expression "colorless condition", but all in all, I think we agree.
I would have said that if and would can go together if would expresses volition, i.e., a wish, as is usually added to indicate politeness.
If you wish to wait a minute, ... Kindly wait a minute and I'll ...
You would learn it if you wished to try.*
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I would have said that if and would can go together if would expresses volition, i.e., a wish, as is usually added to indicate politeness.
If you wish to wait a minute, ... Kindly wait a minute and I'll ...
You would learn it if you wished to try.*
If
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Cool BreezeEven 1b is grammatically correct. It is normally all right to combine if with would when if does not express colorless condition. In your sentence even if could be replaced with even though. More examples of if and would in the same clause:
If you would kindly wait a minute, I'll call Mrs Smith.
You
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CalifJim.Hi CJ
(I saw no reason for suggesting to the original poster that volition and shaking should go together, which can only confuse, as he is obviously working out the (single, acceptable) answer expected in a class exercise.
CJ
I understand that full well. It's just that if you say to the original poster that sen
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Cool BreezeHi CJI agree. Only saying "
I understand that full well. It's just that if you say to the original poster that sentence 1b is wrong, he may take your words at face value and think it really is ungrammatical.
You would learn it if you would try = You would learn it if you just wanted to make an effort.
Cheers
CB
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