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Kooyeen Posted 19 years ago
Speech & Pronunciation
without a fight / without to fight
Hi,
what's the difference in prounciation between "without a fight" and "without to fight"? I think there's a difference in AmE, because the first has a tapped T, the second doesn't. And... what about BrE? Can they be the same? Thanks
what's the difference in prounciation between "without a fight" and "without to fight"? I think there's a difference in AmE, because the first has a tapped T, the second doesn't. And... what about BrE? Can they be the same? Thanks
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The problem is that I can see no correct use for the second phrase-- how would I put it into a sentence?
- The problem is that I can see no correct use for the second phrase-- how would I put it into a sentence?
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The problem is that I can see no correct use for the second phrase-- how would I put it into a sentence?
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In AmE, 'start to fight' has the tapped-t and 'start a fight' has a flap-t (/d/) for most speakers.
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start to fight star.tt'o figh.t
start a fight starta figh.t
where t is unaspirated, t' is aspirated, .t is unreleased, and t is a t like a d (tapped).
AmE
CJ
start a fight starta figh.t
where t is unaspirated, t' is aspirated, .t is unreleased, and t is a t like a d (tapped).
AmE
CJ
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Oops!-- I should at least get my terminology right. 'Tapped-t' = 'flap-t' = /d/ ? (I was calling an unreleased t a 'tapped-t').
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The t that's like a d is usually called a tapped t, but some authors call it flapped.
I see the word flapped more frequently in reference to the Spanish or Italian flapped r.
You're right that the unreleased t is something different. I think there's another term for that as well, but it's slipped my mind just now -- stopped t, maybe?
CJ
I see the word flapped more frequently in reference to the Spanish or Italian flapped r.
You're right that the unreleased t is something different. I think there's another term for that as well, but it's slipped my mind just now -- stopped t, maybe?
CJ
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Thank you,
I knew it had to be that way, but I was wondering what would happen if a Brit said that...
I think the difference would be:
- start to fight <--- stopped t followed by an aspirated t
- start a fight <---- unaspirated t
...provided the speaker doesn't pronounce intervocalic t's as glottal stops.
I knew it had to be that way, but I was wondering what would happen if a Brit said that...
I think the difference would be:
- start to fight <--- stopped t followed by an aspirated t
- start a fight <---- unaspirated t
...provided the speaker doesn't pronounce intervocalic t's as glottal stops.
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