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Kooyeen Posted 19 years ago
Speech & Pronunciation

With - voiced and unvoiced TH

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00in the word 01b01i00with02i02b00 or in similar words (without, withstand...), the TH sound can be voiced or unvoiced (voiced as in 01i00the02i00, unvoiced as in 01i00think02i00).02br
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00I'd like to know more about those two ways of pronouncing 01b01i00with02i02b00. For example, is one way more common? Is one way more related to certain regions? Is one way more related to certain environments? Also, are there people that pronounce 01b01i00with02i02b00 in both ways (that is, you hear both the voiced and the unvoiced way from the same person)?02br
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0Hi Kooyeen,02br 02br 00You asked:01blockquote 00I'd like to know more about those two ways of pronouncing 11b 11i 10with12i 12b 10. For example, is one way more common? 12blockquote 10'The unvoiced way' is common when 'with' is followed by a voiceless consonant.

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  • 0Hi Kooyeen,02br 02br 00You asked:01blockquote 00I'd like to know more about those two ways of pronouncing 11b 11i 10with12i 12b 10.
  • For example, is one way more common?
  • 12blockquote 10'The unvoiced way' is common when 'with' is followed by a voiceless consonant.
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0Hi Kooyeen,02br
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00I'd like to know more about those two ways of pronouncing 11b11i10with12i12b10. For example, is one way more common? Is one way more related to certain regions?12blockquote
10'The unvoiced way' is common when 'with' is followed by a voiceless consonant
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0 I have played around with this for about an hour, and I cannot find a time when I naturally voice the 'th'. The voicing before a vowel does not, however, sound foreign to me. I just don't think I ever voice it. 0-
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0 Thank you.02br
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00I've always pronounced 01b01i00with02i02b00 and 01b01i00without02i02b00 with a voiced TH (as in 01i00there02i00), and absolutely never unvoiced. According to my dictionaries (and according to most of online dictionaries too), both the voiced and the unvoi
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0 I think I always voice it. I've just been experimenting and when it is unvoiced it sounds like a person with a lisp (to me). 0-
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0 I believe I almost always use the unvoiced version before consonants, and sometimes use the voiced version before vowels. I always use the voiced version for 'without' though.0-
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0 Kooyeen,02br
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00 Same comments as Philip's. I don't think I ever use the voiced 01i00th02i00 in 01i00with02i00, but it sounds fine when others say it.02br
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00 CJ0-
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0In Vegas, the 'TH' voices you. 0-
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That's all very interesting. I am from Australia and ALWAYS say the unvoiced "th", as in "thistle".
I'd never even though about pronouncing it otherwise until now.
But I must say, I have heard people use it - exclusively in American movies or on TV.
I have never met an Australian person, or talked to an Australian person, who voices it.
It sounds very foreign to me - and I'd prob
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