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New Hope Posted 13 years ago
Grammar

With or without "had"?

Which one is correct?
The Qachars were the Turks who settled in Iran during the ancient times.
The Qachars were the Turks who had settled in Iran during the ancient times.
  

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It should be "during ancient times" (no "the"). " (again no "the"). The article would be possible in certain cases, such as when you are comparing this group of Turks to another group of Turks.

  • It should be "during ancient times" (no "the").
  • " (again no "the").
  • The article would be possible in certain cases, such as when you are comparing this group of Turks to another group of Turks.
  • The choice between "settled" and "had settled" depends on the wider context.
  • "had settled" would be appropriate if you are looking back on that event from a past viewpoint.
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It should be "during ancient times" (no "the").

Probably it should be "The Qachars were Turks who ..." (again no "the"). The article would be possible in certain cases, such as when you are comparing this group of Turks to another group of Turks.

The choice between "settled" and "had settled" depends on the wider context. "had settled" would be appropriate if you are looking back
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Thank you for your reply. I am still confused about the use of "the" before nationalities, for example if we do not need to put "the" before "Turks" in the example above, why we put "the" before "Qachars"? Please explain with a few more examples.
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I'm assuming "Qachar" is what is spelt "Qajar" in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qajars_(Turkic_people), right?

It's "the Qachars" because you are referring to the nation/people/tribe as a whole. You don't need "the" before "Turks" because you are talking about "some Turks / certain Turks

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