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Tenacious Learner Posted 13 years ago
Grammar

With no tie (paraphrase for 'without a tie'?

Hi teachers.
Would 'with no tie' be an appropriate paraphrase for 'without a tie'?

You can't come to work without a tie.
You can't come to work with no tie.

Thanks in advance.
  

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Tenacious Learner Would 'with no tie' be an appropriate paraphrase for 'without a tie'? As with many of your paraphrases, you can probably get away with it for the purposes of instruction, but it's not really very idiomatic to say it that way. If you simply wish to omit the word 'without', You can't come to work if you are not wearing a tie.

— CalifJim

  • Tenacious Learner Would 'with no tie' be an appropriate paraphrase for 'without a tie'?
  • As with many of your paraphrases, you can probably get away with it for the purposes of instruction, but it's not really very idiomatic to say it that way.
  • If you simply wish to omit the word 'without', You can't come to work if you are not wearing a tie.
  • But I suspect that's not your goal.
  • CJ
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Tenacious LearnerWould 'with no tie' be an appropriate paraphrase for 'without a tie'?
As with many of your paraphrases, you can probably get away with it for the purposes of instruction, but it's not really very idiomatic to say it that way.

If you simply wish to omit the word 'without',

You can't come to work if you are not wearing a tie
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CalifJimAs with many of your paraphrases, you can probably get away with it for the purposes of instruction, but it's not really very idiomatic to say it that way.
Hi Jim,
Thanks! Yes, it's just to explain it to the students.
CalifJimIf you simply wish to omit the word 'without', You can't come to work if you are not wearing a tie.
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Tenacious LearnerWe are in Chapter 7 and 'IF' is explained in Chapter 19.
Oof! Twelve chapters of waiting?
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If they already know the relationship between 'can' and 'have to', you can approach it like this:

You can't come to work without a tie = You have to come to work with a tie.

CJ
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CalifJimOof! Twelve chapters of waiting?
Hullo Jim,
But it will come!Emotion: nodding

TL
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CalifJimIf they already know the relationship between 'can' and 'have to', you can approach it like this:
Hi,
Thanks! Yes, they do.
CalifJimYou can't come to work without a tie = You have to come to work with a tie.
That's a great one.
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Hi Jim,
On second thought, would 'not having' a tie, work?

TL
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Tenacious LearnerOn second thought, would 'not having' a tie, work?
Yes, or better, 'not wearing'.

('not having' can mean simply that the person doesn't own a tie, of course, though, given the context, the listener is not likely to assume this meaning.)

CJ
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CalifJimYes, or better, 'not wearing'.
Hi Jim,
Thanks for your reply and comments; they are helpful.
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