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Why Allah?
I was just reading the first transcript that I've been able to find of the entire thirteen-minute bin Laden speech (most were transcripts of the edited five minutes that al Jazeera aired):
http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/79C6AF22-98FB-4A1C-B21F-2BC36E87F61F.htm
It strikes me as odd that "Allah" is usually used in translations to English rather than "God". What do you folks think?
Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany
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http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/79C6AF22-98FB-4A1C-B21F-2BC36E87F61F.htm
It strikes me as odd that "Allah" is usually used in translations to English rather than "God". What do you folks think?
Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany
"it's the network..." "The Journey is the reward" (Email Removed) Info for manufacturers: http://www.trexon.com Embedded software/hardware/analog Info for designers: http://www.speff.com
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[nq:1]I was just reading the first transcript that I've been able to find of the entire thirteen-minute bin Laden speech ... me as odd that "Allah" is usually used in translations to English rather than "***". [/nq] What word do native English-speaking Muslims use, I wonder?
- [nq:1]I was just reading the first transcript that I've been able to find of the entire thirteen-minute bin Laden speech ...
- me as odd that "Allah" is usually used in translations to English rather than "***".
- [/nq] What word do native English-speaking Muslims use, I wonder?
- Both, at times?
- john
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[nq:1]I was just reading the first transcript that I've been able to find of the entire thirteen-minute bin Laden speech ... me as odd that "Allah" is usually used in translations to English rather than "***". What do you folks think?[/nq]
What word do native English-speaking Muslims use, I wonder? Both, at times?
john
What word do native English-speaking Muslims use, I wonder? Both, at times?
john
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Spehro Pefhany biomed:
[nq:1]I was just reading the first transcript that I've been able to find of the entire thirteen-minute bin Laden speech ... me as odd that "Allah" is usually used in translations to English rather than "***". What do you folks think?[/nq]
When you have *** on your side, it's not good strategy to let your people realise that your enemy also has *** on HIS side.
[nq:1]I was just reading the first transcript that I've been able to find of the entire thirteen-minute bin Laden speech ... me as odd that "Allah" is usually used in translations to English rather than "***". What do you folks think?[/nq]
When you have *** on your side, it's not good strategy to let your people realise that your enemy also has *** on HIS side.
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[nq:1]Spehro Pefhany biomed:[/nq]
Exactly. Many American Christians don't get it that Allah is ***.
Adrian
Exactly. Many American Christians don't get it that Allah is ***.
Adrian
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[nq:2]Calling him "Allah" leaves the impression that he's worshipping a false ***. Better public relations.[/nq]
[nq:1]Exactly. Many American Christians don't get it that Allah is ***. Adrian[/nq]
IMHO, to say Allah is *** conveys a different nuance than Allah means *** (or translates as ).
Bloke
[nq:1]Exactly. Many American Christians don't get it that Allah is ***. Adrian[/nq]
IMHO, to say Allah is *** conveys a different nuance than Allah means *** (or translates as ).
Bloke
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True. I've heard people say, "They worship Allah!", as if the word refers to a Satanic deity.
Even some of those who do get it refuse to accept that Allah refers to the *** of Abraham, same as their own.
dg (domain=ccwebster)
Even some of those who do get it refuse to accept that Allah refers to the *** of Abraham, same as their own.
dg (domain=ccwebster)
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[nq:2]I was just reading the first transcript that I've been ... to English rather than "***". What do you folks think?[/nq]
[nq:1]What word do native English-speaking Muslims use, I wonder? Both, at times?[/nq]
Always '***' in my experience. I've often had conversations with muslims who wish to stress the inclusivity of Islam. But you can look at that 'inclusivity' from a number of angles
[nq:1]What word do native English-speaking Muslims use, I wonder? Both, at times?[/nq]
Always '***' in my experience. I've often had conversations with muslims who wish to stress the inclusivity of Islam. But you can look at that 'inclusivity' from a number of angles
00
[nq:2]Exactly. Many American Christians don't get it that Allah is ***.[/nq]
[nq:1]True. I've heard people say, "They worship Allah!", as if the word refers to a Satanic deity. Even some of those who do get it refuse to accept that Allah refers to the *** of Abraham, same as their own.[/nq]
"Allah" is the word used to mean "***" by Christian Arabs. A similar word is also used to mean "***"
[nq:1]True. I've heard people say, "They worship Allah!", as if the word refers to a Satanic deity. Even some of those who do get it refuse to accept that Allah refers to the *** of Abraham, same as their own.[/nq]
"Allah" is the word used to mean "***" by Christian Arabs. A similar word is also used to mean "***"
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[nq:1]"Allah" is the word used to mean "***" by Christian Arabs. A similar word is also used to mean "***" in Maltese (which is closely related to Arabic).[/nq]
Indonesian Christians use "Allah" too. Here's an Indonesian translation of Genesis: .
Indonesian Christians use "Allah" too. Here's an Indonesian translation of Genesis: .
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[nq:2]Exactly. Many American Christians don't get it that Allah is ***. Adrian[/nq]
[nq:1]IMHO, to say Allah is *** conveys a different nuance than Allah means *** (or translates as ).[/nq]
Yes, and that is the correct nuance - it is (meant to be) the same ***.
[nq:1]IMHO, to say Allah is *** conveys a different nuance than Allah means *** (or translates as ).[/nq]
Yes, and that is the correct nuance - it is (meant to be) the same ***.
00
Many worldwide don't get it that "Allah" is "***", or "Allah" and "***" are gods.
john
john
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