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English 1b3 Posted 16 years ago
Grammar

Which Version--And or no and

It should be funtioning as a noun, as a direct object.

It should be functioning as a noun, a direct object.

It should be functioning as a noun, and as a direct object.

Which version is best?

I don't think and works, because it implies it is a noun and a direct object, even though they are the same thing
  

Top answer

The last, without the comma. It can definitely function as both. A direct object is not necessarily a noun; they are not the same thing.

— Ferdis

  • The last, without the comma.
  • It can definitely function as both.
  • A direct object is not necessarily a noun; they are not the same thing.
  • The second sentence says that another word for 'noun' is 'a direct object'.
  • The first sentence uses a style I wouldn't use in regular writing, and it also implies they are the same thing.
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The last, without the comma. It can definitely function as both. A direct object is not necessarily a noun; they are not the same thing. The second sentence says that another word for 'noun' is 'a direct object'. The first sentence uses a style I wouldn't use in regular writing, and it also implies they are the same thing.

(By the way, I'd write, "It should be a noun functioning as a dir
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I would probably say it like

It should be funtioning both as a noun and (a) direct object.
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IvanhrI would probably say it like
It should be funtioning both as a noun and (a) direct object.


In that case it must be:

It should be functioning as both a noun and a direct object.

for proper parallellism with 'both'.
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I think both are fine.
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IvanhrI think both are fine.

But they aren't. In this case, 'both' must be followed by two phrases that are grammatically equivalent. In your sentence it is followed by a prepositional phrase and a noun phrase. You should move the 'as' in front of 'both' to turn what follows into two noun phrases.
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A direct object can act like a noun.
If this is what you wanted to say, Eng.
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Greetings, English 1b3,

the sentences are structured so that certain misunderstanding may appear, caused by a syllogism in the judgement. A noun is an instance of form, while a direct object is representative of function. Therefore, coordinating these two units within the present statement leads us into thinking that a nounal word class is a manifestation of function, which
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ferdis
But they aren't. In this case, 'both' must be followed by two phrases that are grammatically equivalent. In your sentence it is followed by a prepositional phrase and a noun phrase. You should move the 'as' in front of 'both' to turn what follows into two noun phrases.

In the original post, it appears to me that it's unlikely
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dimsumexpressThis will eliminate the need for using "both" and the confusion with the comma. By the way, "as" can grammatically be placed in front of "both" or after. As a matter of fact, "both as" is more common.
I'm sorry, that post of mine was in response to Ivanhr's sentence, "It should be funtioning both as a noun and a direct object", not the starti
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ferdisBoth as X and Y -- poor parallellism. Anyway,

Hi Ferdis,

Now I am really curious!

Are these examples of bad paralellism?

Aquarium pump for use both as an air pump and a water pump and ...

The aquarium pump for use both as an air pump and a water pump as recited in claim 1, wherein said outer casing includes a lower

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