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"Which" phrase

Hi,
Does the following sentence contain grammatical mistakes?

"It uses a hierarchy of data objects, which closely corresponds to the structure of physical music scores, to internally represent them."

I remember once a teacher taught me that for a correct sentence, even when the "which phrase" is removed, the remaining sentence should still make sense. Here, if it was removed, it would become "It uses a hierachy of data objects to internally represent them.". The use of "them" seems to lack context, is this a problem?
Thanks,
Michael
  

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Michael wrote on 29 Sep 2004: [nq:1]Hi, Does the following sentence contain grammatical mistakes? "It uses a hierarchy of data objects, which closely corresponds to the ... ".

  • Michael wrote on 29 Sep 2004: [nq:1]Hi, Does the following sentence contain grammatical mistakes?
  • "It uses a hierarchy of data objects, which closely corresponds to the ...
  • ".
  • [/nq] Presumably, the referent for "them" is in the previous sentence.
  • It cannot be "physical music scores".
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Michael wrote on 29 Sep 2004:
[nq:1]Hi, Does the following sentence contain grammatical mistakes? "It uses a hierarchy of data objects, which closely corresponds to the ... hierachy of data objects to internally represent them.". The use of "them" seems to lack context, is this a problem?[/nq]
Presumably, the referent for "them" is in the previous sentence. It cannot be "physical music sco
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[nq:1]Hi, Does the following sentence contain grammatical mistakes? "It uses a hierarchy of data objects, which closely corresponds to the ... hierachy of data objects to internally represent them.". The use of "them" seems to lack context, is this a problem?[/nq]
I take it from your comments that "them" refers to physical music scores.
In that case I'd rewrite as "To internally represent
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Matti Lamprhey wrote on 29 Sep 2004:
[nq:2]Hi, Does the following sentence contain grammatical mistakes? "It uses ... of "them" seems to lack context, is this a problem?[/nq]
[nq:1]I take it from your comments that "them" refers to physical music scores.[/nq]
You might be right about that. Would Barthes call this a readerly or a writerly text, then?
[nq:1]In that case I'd rewrite a
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[nq:1]Michael wrote on 29 Sep 2004:[/nq]
[nq:2]Hi, Does the following sentence contain grammatical mistakes? "It uses ... of "them" seems to lack context, is this a problem?[/nq]
[nq:1]Presumably, the referent for "them" is in the previous sentence. It cannot be "physical music scores". So, because the sentence ... don't see any grammatical errors in it, but there may be ambiguity and conf
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[nq:2]Michael wrote on 29 Sep 2004:[/nq]
[nq:1]Does anyone else feel that English idiom demands "musical scores" rather than "music scores"? I (a musician) certainly do.[/nq]
If you google "music score" and "musical score", you get almost identical counts.
However, "music scores" occurs almost five times as often as "musical scores". That does seem strange. When constraining results to
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Roland Hutchinson wrote on 29 Sep 2004:
[nq:1]Does anyone else feel that English idiom demands "musical scores" rather than "music scores"? I (a musician) certainly do.[/nq]
I had that phrase in my mind but went with the OP's original phrase because I'm not sure which is preferred.
I just checked the OED, W3NID, and AHD4, and not a one had "music(al) score". W3NID had "orchestral score
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[nq:1]Roland Hutchinson wrote on 29 Sep 2004: [/nq]
[nq:2]Does anyone else feel that English idiom demands "musical scores" rather than "music scores"? I (a musician) certainly do.[/nq]
[nq:1]I had that phrase in my mind but went with the OP's original phrase because I'm not sure which is preferred. I just checked the OED, W3NID, and AHD4, and not a one had "music(al) score". W3NID had "or
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[nq:2]Hi, Does the following sentence contain grammatical mistakes? "It uses ... of "them" seems to lack context, is this a problem?[/nq]
[nq:1]I take it from your comments that "them" refers to physical music scores. In that case I'd rewrite as "To internally represent the physical music scores it uses a hierarchy of data objects reflecting their structure".[/nq]
If this is for a software
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CyberCypher filted:
[nq:1]I Googled both phrases and found 234,000 hits for "music score" and 221,000 hits for "musical score". The former included ... numbers mean nothing, but that the difference between them is not statistically significant might indicate that both phrases are acceptable.[/nq]
I found a couple of years ago that it doesn't pay to use the term "sheet music" in front of a
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[nq:1]Does the following sentence contain grammatical mistakes? "It uses a hierarchy of data objects, which closely corresponds to the structure ... hierachy of data objects to internally represent them.". The use of "them" seems to lack context, is this a problem?[/nq]
The problem with that rule is that there are two kinds of 'which-phrases' i.e, Relative Clauses and the rule doesn't work uni

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