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Liveinjapan Posted 19 years ago
Grammar

, which or , it

0Hi, please help me out.02br
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00'Fortunately we had a map01font01b00,02b02font00 without 01i00which02i00 we would have got lost.'02br
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00Can I use it instead of which in this case. like02br
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00'Fortunately we had a map01font01b00,02b02font00 without 01i00it02i00 we would have got lost.'02br
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00If there're two sentences like below, it's okay to use 01i00it02i00?02br
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00'Fortunately we had a map. And without 01i00it02i00 we would have got lost.' 0-
  

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0'Fortunately we had a map01font01b00,02b02font00 without 01i00it 02i00we would have 01b00been02b00 lost.'02br
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0Hi, Bennyman .02br
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00I think I can use 'it' instead of 'which'.02br
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00Do you mean using 'which' is grammatically wrong?02br
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00I found this line in the grammar book by Cambridge.02br
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00You mean both are fine?02br
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00Do you mean when using 'it', you must say 'been lost' (not
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01) "we would have got lost" should be either "we would have been lost" or "we would have gotten lost." (American. Perhaps in BrE "have got" is okay? I get confused on this one.)02br
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002) With the "which" you are referring back to the map, and this keeps it as a dependent clause. If you want to replace 01i00which 02i00with 01i00it, 02
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0Thanks, Grammar Geek!02br
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00So, used a comma splice, that would be okay:02br
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00'Fortunately we had a map,(<-- a comma splice) without it we would have gotten (/ been) lost.02br
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00Is that what you mean?02br
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00I understand what you said about how to separate the sentence into complete two ones.
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0 the phrase "Fortunately we had a map, without which we would have been lost" sounds actually a little harsh, but it should be ok, shouldn't it?02br
00Probably that's due to the presence of "Fortunately"; it would sound better 02br
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00"we had a map without which we would have been lost", 02br
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00or, otherwise, if you want to point out
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0No, a comma splice is an 01i00error02i00. I should have said it 01i00wrongly 02i00joins two sentences with a comma 0-
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0GG, Thank you very much.02br
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00I understand perfectly!02br
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00What a wonderful day!02br
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00Best regards.0-
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0 Hi everyone,02br
00I just thought of another solution,02br
00"Fortunately we had a map, without that (map) we would have gotten lost!"02br
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00Would it be good as well? 050010id1
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01cite10Liveinjapan12cite12br
10Thanks, Grammar Geek!12br
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10So, used a comma splice, that would be okay:12br
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10'Fortunately we had a map,(<-- a comma splice) without it we would have gotten (/ been) lost.12br
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10Is that what you mean?12br
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0Kooyeen, I see what you mean. An alternative to which is 'that' . Thaks, but I still prefer to use 'which'. I cannot explain why.02br
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00Bennyman, Thank you for your helpful solutions. It really helped me understand that matter.02br
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00Zeppe, your opinion helped me a lot as well. thanks.02br
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00Thanks everyone.0-

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