Whether to use the definite article

Hello, Valida-- and welcome to English Forums.

2.The roses in this garden are beautiful.-- Because you have specified 'in this garden', the definite article is needed.

Hi valida:

Welcome to the Forums!

valida1.Roses in this garden are beautiful.
2.The roses in this garden are beautiful.

You can use either one.
The first sentence is a more general statement; referring to roses in general. It could be in this context:

Here is a lovely English garden. It has daffodils, sweet william, petunias, marigold

Thank you for your reply.

I've seen a thesis that argues that both 1 and 2 are correct there. May I ask to what extent do you find the first sentence wrong? Are there any possible interpretation for the first sentence without the definite article?

Some more related questions here.

3. Wines of France are among the best in the world.

4. The wines of France are am

Thanks a lot.

One more related question.

Do you think the first sentence can refer to some of the roses in this garden while the second refers to all the roses in this garden?

validaDo you think the first sentence can refer to some of the roses in this garden while the second refers to all the roses in this garden?

I don't get that impression at all. You have to use a quantifier or qualifying adjective if you don't mean all of them.

The hybrid tea roses are beautiful.
Some of the roses are beautiful.

thank you, AlpheccaStars.

Can you help me answer the above questions about (the)wines of France/that France produces.

valida3. Wines of France are among the best in the world.
4. The wines of France are among the best in the world.
5. Wines that France produces are among the best in the world.
6. The wines that France produces are among the best in the world.

It is arguable that any of these are OK.
However, I think you would see them more often written with

My two cents.

These are fine as isolated sentences.

The roses in this garden are beautiful.
The wines of France are among the best in the world.
The wines that France produces are among the best in the world.
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These don't work as isolated sentences. Either they need to be modified or they need to be placed wit

Thank you, CJ.

But I am still a bit confused about the subtle difference between

Roses in this garden are beautiful.

and

Roses in this garden would be beautiful.

Why is the second one better?

Definite expressions specify "which".

Singular: the rose, the garden,
this rose, that rose, this garden, that garden
Plural: the roses, the gardens,
these roses, those roses, these gardens, those gardens

Indefinite expressions say "It doesn't matter which".

Singular: a rose, a garden
any rose,