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Where vs. in which
I'm always wondering in what case "in which" can be replaced with "where," excetp for an obvious place or situation is involved? Is there a definite rule, or is it just a colloquial, loose use? See the following:
(Pixar and Disney Studios have partnered on all Pixar¡¦s films. Pixar made the films, and Disney marketed them. But that relationship will not last beyond their current six-film contract.) Pixar wants a deal WHERE it can retain the rights to its own creative work.
Thank you.
(Pixar and Disney Studios have partnered on all Pixar¡¦s films. Pixar made the films, and Disney marketed them. But that relationship will not last beyond their current six-film contract.) Pixar wants a deal WHERE it can retain the rights to its own creative work.
Thank you.
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sklin wrote on 04 Dec 2004: [nq:1]I'm always wondering in what case "in which" can be replaced with "where," excetp for an obvious place or situation ... [/nq] I would change it to "in which" were I the editor of the rag in which this appeared. But there will undoubtedly be defenders of this ***- poor usage here.
- sklin wrote on 04 Dec 2004: [nq:1]I'm always wondering in what case "in which" can be replaced with "where," excetp for an obvious place or situation ...
- [/nq] I would change it to "in which" were I the editor of the rag in which this appeared.
- But there will undoubtedly be defenders of this ***- poor usage here.
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sklin wrote on 04 Dec 2004:
[nq:1]I'm always wondering in what case "in which" can be replaced with "where," excetp for an obvious place or situation ... beyond their current six-film contract.) Pixar wants a deal WHERE it can retain the rights to its own creative work.[/nq]
I would change it to "in which" were I the editor of the rag in which this appeared. But there will undoubtedly be d
[nq:1]I'm always wondering in what case "in which" can be replaced with "where," excetp for an obvious place or situation ... beyond their current six-film contract.) Pixar wants a deal WHERE it can retain the rights to its own creative work.[/nq]
I would change it to "in which" were I the editor of the rag in which this appeared. But there will undoubtedly be d
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IMO in your example "WHERE" is an abbreviation of "whereby".
If my hunch is correct, then, to answer your question "where(by)" can replace "which" and the auxiliary words:
"Pursuant to which"=whereby ->where
"Through which"=whereby->where
If my hunch is correct, then, to answer your question "where(by)" can replace "which" and the auxiliary words:
"Pursuant to which"=whereby ->where
"Through which"=whereby->where
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[nq:1]I'm always wondering in what case "in which" can be replaced with "where," excetp for an obvious place or situation ... beyond their current six-film contract.) Pixar wants a deal WHERE it can retain the rights to its own creative work.[/nq]
'Where' can refer to more than just physical location. It can also refer to general situations. (Even the word 'situation' shows the 'location' meta
'Where' can refer to more than just physical location. It can also refer to general situations. (Even the word 'situation' shows the 'location' meta
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[nq:1]Subject: Re: where vs. in which From: CyberCypher[/nq]
[nq:2]I'm always wondering in what case "in which" can be ... is it just a colloquial, loose use? See the following:[/nq]
[nq:1]But there will undoubtedly be defenders of this ***- poor usage here.[/nq]
I'll start by saying that "in which" is usually preferable, of course.
But "in which" is an inherently pedantic for
[nq:2]I'm always wondering in what case "in which" can be ... is it just a colloquial, loose use? See the following:[/nq]
[nq:1]But there will undoubtedly be defenders of this ***- poor usage here.[/nq]
I'll start by saying that "in which" is usually preferable, of course.
But "in which" is an inherently pedantic for
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[nq:1]IMO in your example "WHERE" is an abbreviation of "whereby". If my hunch is correct, then, to answer your question "where(by)" canreplace "which" and the auxiliary words: "Pursuant to which"=whereby ->where "Through which"=whereby->where[/nq]
"A deal where" is poor. "A deal in which" sounds wrong. "A deal whereby" is okay but pretentious. "A deal whereunder" is good, maybe, in law.
"A deal where" is poor. "A deal in which" sounds wrong. "A deal whereby" is okay but pretentious. "A deal whereunder" is good, maybe, in law.
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It may be pretentious, but it's precise and economical.
[nq:1]I'd go for "a deal by means of which". Or, better still: "Pixar wants a deal that will allow it to retain..."[/nq]
Isn't it pretentious to use so many words just to avoid... pretentiousness?
[nq:1]I'd go for "a deal by means of which". Or, better still: "Pixar wants a deal that will allow it to retain..."[/nq]
Isn't it pretentious to use so many words just to avoid... pretentiousness?
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[nq:1]It may be pretentious, but it's precise and economical.[/nq]
[nq:2]I'd go for "a deal by means of which". Or, better still: "Pixar wants adeal that will allow it to retain..."[/nq]
[nq:1]Isn't it pretentious to use so many words just to avoid...pretentiousness?[/nq]
Don't be silly. How can avoiding pretension be pretentious? "That will allow it to" (or "that will let it") is norm
[nq:2]I'd go for "a deal by means of which". Or, better still: "Pixar wants adeal that will allow it to retain..."[/nq]
[nq:1]Isn't it pretentious to use so many words just to avoid...pretentiousness?[/nq]
Don't be silly. How can avoiding pretension be pretentious? "That will allow it to" (or "that will let it") is norm
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Qp10qp wrote on 05 Dec 2004:
[nq:2]Subject: Re: where vs. in which From: CyberCypher But there will undoubtedly be defenders of this ***- poor usage here.[/nq]
[nq:1]I'll start by saying that "in which" is usually preferable, of course. But "in which" is an inherently pedantic form, rarely used in spoken English;[/nq]
I don't think it's "inherently pedantic any more than any other stru
[nq:2]Subject: Re: where vs. in which From: CyberCypher But there will undoubtedly be defenders of this ***- poor usage here.[/nq]
[nq:1]I'll start by saying that "in which" is usually preferable, of course. But "in which" is an inherently pedantic form, rarely used in spoken English;[/nq]
I don't think it's "inherently pedantic any more than any other stru
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[nq:1]Subject: Re: where vs. in which From: CyberCypher I don't like blanket statements about any given structure.[/nq]
Ahem, sir - if I may be Victorian for a moment - but do I not recall a sentence in which you referred to the "where" form as, apologies to gentlefolk present, "this ***-poor usage"?
[nq:1]When creating an educated Victorian character, "in which" is most definitely better
Ahem, sir - if I may be Victorian for a moment - but do I not recall a sentence in which you referred to the "where" form as, apologies to gentlefolk present, "this ***-poor usage"?
[nq:1]When creating an educated Victorian character, "in which" is most definitely better
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Qp10qp wrote on 06 Dec 2004:
[nq:2]Subject: Re: where vs. in which From: CyberCypher I don't like blanket statements about any given structure.[/nq]
[nq:1]Ahem, sir - if I may be Victorian for a moment - but do I not recall a sentence in which you referred to the "where" form as, apologies to gentlefolk present, "this ***-poor usage"?[/nq]
Yes, but that was my blanket statement. I was
[nq:2]Subject: Re: where vs. in which From: CyberCypher I don't like blanket statements about any given structure.[/nq]
[nq:1]Ahem, sir - if I may be Victorian for a moment - but do I not recall a sentence in which you referred to the "where" form as, apologies to gentlefolk present, "this ***-poor usage"?[/nq]
Yes, but that was my blanket statement. I was
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