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Jackson6612 Posted 19 years ago
Grammar

When shown to be wrong, I had to eat humble pie.

1b01font00When shown to be wrong, I had to eat humble pie.02font02b02br
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01font00When 01b01i00I was02i02b00 shown to be wrong, I had to eat humble pie02font01font00?02font0-
  

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0It is also possible to use the past participle alone in that sentence. 0-

  • 0It is also possible to use the past participle alone in that sentence.
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0It is also possible to use the past participle alone in that sentence. In this kind of passive constructions, the forms of 'be' can be omitted.0-
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01cite10Conchita5712cite10It is also possible to use the past participle alone in that sentence. In this kind of passive constructions, the forms of 'be' can be omitted.12br
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10But according to what grammar rule it is possible to use the past participle alone in such constructions?0
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01cite10Jackson661212cite10But according to what grammar rule it is possible to use the past participle alone in such constructions?12br
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10I don't think you will find grammar rules for everything in English, but you can always try to look for one if it is important to you. Meanwhile,
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01cite10Jackson661212cite11b11font10When shown to be wrong, I had to eat humble pie.12font12b12br
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0 In other words, Jackson, in the context of your sentence, 'shown' can only be understood as being in the past. However, you can also use 'shown' this way:02br
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01i01font00When shown to be wrong, I 01b00have to02b00 eat humble pie02font00. = 00When I 01b00am02b00 shown to b
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0Hi Yankee,02br
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00Why is it very common in English to use contractions of various expressions? Like as you said: 01i00When shown to be wrong, I have to eat humble pie. = When I am shown to be wrong, I have to eat humble pie.02i00 Perhaps to natives like you just saying 01i00when shown to be wrong02i00 is correct even grammati
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0 Hi Jackson02br
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00I can't really tell you 01b00why02b00 omissions are common in English, but I can tell you that omissions do 01b00not02b00 happen exclusively in English. Having lived and worked in Germany for 17 years, I can tell you that there are plenty of times when words are omitted in the German language, too. I'm sur
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11font10Having lived and worked in Germany for 17 years.12font12br
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10What do 01i00having lived02i00 or 01i00having worked02i00 mean? What tense is being used in 01i00having lived02i
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0 This is not a "tense" per se. This use of the present participle is a way to provide a reason for something in the main part of the sentence. I used the present participle of 'have' and the past participle of the main verb because the activity was in the past. It means:02br
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00"01i00Because I lived and worked in Germany for 17 years, ...02i00.

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