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Liveinjapan Posted 18 years ago
Grammar

When I see him/Tom

Tom was drunk when I saw him.

I know it's okay.

When I saw him, Tom was drunk.

When I saw Tom, he was drunk.

Which is better? Is one of them wrong?

Thanks
LiJ
  

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Liveinjapan Tom was drunk when I saw him. I know it's okay. When I saw him, Tom was drunk.

  • Liveinjapan Tom was drunk when I saw him.
  • I know it's okay.
  • When I saw him, Tom was drunk.
  • (I would never say this.
  • It is not right to introduce a pronoun before the noun) When I saw Tom, he was drunk.
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LiveinjapanTom was drunk when I saw him.

I know it's okay.

When I saw him, Tom was drunk. (I would never say this. It is not right to introduce a pronoun before the noun)


When I saw Tom, he was drunk.

Which is better? Is one of them wrong?

Thanks
LiJ
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When I saw him, Tom was drunk. (I would never say this. It is not right to introduce a pronoun before the noun)

Hoa Thai is correct -- if this is the first mention of Tom. However, if the other people in the conversation are already discussing Tom, it would be okay. Something like this:

"Did
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Hi,

When I saw him, Tom was drunk. A potential problem here is that it leaves open the possibility that we are talking about two men rather than just Tom..

eg I saw Paul at the party last night. When I saw him (referring to Paul), Tom was drunk. For that reason, I couldn't introduce Paul to Tom.

Clive
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Thank you teachers.

I understand.
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Khoff"Did anyone see Tom drinking on the night of the accident?"

"When I saw him, Tom was already drunk."
Hi,

I thought of such a scenario too. However, wouldn't it be more natural to say, "When I saw him, he was already drunk"? The use of both pronouns seems
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As a literary trick, though, I think putting the pronoun first might be a possibility. I can imagine a book or short story beginning something like, "When I first met him, Tom Johnson was just about as drunk as it is possible for a healthy young man to be." It would certainly be clearer with the antecedent first, of course.
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I thought of such a scenario too. However, wouldn't it be more natural to say, "When I saw him, he was already drunk"? The use of both pronouns seems better to me.


I think one could come up with scenarios for both versions. You're right, though -- "when I saw him, he was already drunk" would proba

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