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Hotmale Posted 14 years ago
Grammar

What time did you say the train leaves?

I'm supposed to turn this sentence into the Passive Voice.
Could you tell me whether my transformation is all right?

He asked me what time the train left

or

He asked me what time I had said the train left.

Thank you
  

Top answer

He asked me [ that ] what time I had said [ that ] the train had left. You dropped "that" currently in your sentence, and perhaps this confused you. As I know your sentence is understandable, but I have learnt that the second one should be like this.

  • He asked me [ that ] what time I had said [ that ] the train had left.
  • You dropped "that" currently in your sentence, and perhaps this confused you.
  • As I know your sentence is understandable, but I have learnt that the second one should be like this.
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He asked me [ that ] what time I had said [ that ] the train had left.
You dropped "that" currently in your sentence, and perhaps this confused you.
As I know your sentence is understandable, but I have learnt that the second one should be like this.
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Hi, YouzouEmotion: smile

Thank you for your reply. I've got two questions, if I may: isn't "that" optional? And why did you write "had le
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Nope. if "that" comes as subject of Adjective Clause you cannot do that. Perhaps in those places you could use Reduced Adjective Clause
I saw a man who/that was carrying an umbrella. => I saw a man carrying an umbrella.

Right: The police arrested the guy who hit my car.
Wrong: The police arrested the guy hit my car.
The second example is bad English bec
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I thought about that, and as you probably know I am not native English speaker. I think I figured out why you are in doubt.

Simple present is for scheduled events in future, but I haven't heard or read that you it is possible to think that simple past can have the same rule. You should probably use future in the past tense. Using "would" or past "to be" + "going to".
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He asked me [ that ] what time I had said [ that ] the train would leave/was going to leave.
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youzou I am not native English speaker.
I am not a native English speaker Emotion: thinking
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Thank you for your replies. I'm still confused by what you said about "that", but I'm often confused Emotion: big smile
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To get back to the original question -

What, exactly is the sentence you wish to transform?
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Don't be. I am sure about it, it is a grammar rule. We have Defining Adjective Clauses and Non-defining Adjective Clauses,
What you used was Defining Adjective Clauses (in Non-defining Adjective Clauses, we cannot use "that" and we use the clause within commas). We cannot omit relative pronoun (which, who, ...) in Non-defining Adjective Clauses, but in Defining Adjective Clauses we can
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youzouHe asked me [ that ] what time I had said [ that ] the train had left.You dropped "that" currently in your sentence, and perhaps this confused you.
Sorry, youzou, but that first 'that' is just wrong.

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