What is the pupil called?

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HelloI wonder if you got a term in English (In Chinese, we call them "inserting student") that means a student who joins a class in the middle of a semester, or some months later than his/her classmates because of age borderline. For example, a school that receives two- year old kids for a nursery class, now a girl who is three months short, if she waits for next year's enrolment, she will be too "old" then. Then in some schools, they would let the girl join the class when she turns 3. With thanks.Kevin

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[nq:1]Hello I wonder if you got a term in English (In Chinese, we call them "inserting student") that means a ... then. =A0Then in some schools, they would let the girl join the class when she turns 3. =A0With thanks. Kevin[/nq]
Sorry, a typo, the last sentence should be read as "..when she turns 2".
Kevin

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(Email Removed), Kevin (Email Removed) writes
[nq:2]Hello I wonder if you got a term in English ... months later than his/her classmates because of age borderline. [/nq]
[nq:1]Sorry, a typo, the last sentence should be read as "..when she turns 2". Kevin[/nq]
I really don't think that there is any BrE word (or words) which specifically describe this situation. I suppose you could say "intermediate joiner", "late joiner", "late arrival", "mid-way starter" - or any combination of these. But I can't think of a 'technical' description.

Ian

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"Ian Jackson" (Email Removed) skrev i meddelelsen
[nq:2]Sorry, a typo, the last sentence should be read as "..when she turns 2". Kevin[/nq]
[nq:1]I really don't think that there is any BrE word (or words) which specifically describe this situation. I suppose you could say "intermediate joiner", "late joiner", "late arrival", "mid-way starter" - or any combination of these. But I can't think of a 'technical' description.[/nq]
School systems are very different from country to country. It is, therefore, almost impossible to give a definition to all different situations in another language. If your school system is based on birthdays in which you are to start a certain class (which makes newcomers start every day - and how about summerholidays?), you probably will be short of words to describe and define the situation.
It is the same about political and governmental institutions and parties: In England you have certain political institutions which have 'funny' names, e.g. Home office - which in my country (Denmark) is "Ministry of Domestic Affairs" (it might be understood as well in BrE, but the Home Office might not be understood in Danish).
In the Northern Countries (i.e. Denmark, Norway, Sweden, Iceland and Finland) the word "pedagogic" is used about educational things as well as upbringing, but it is not very used in BrE unless you are a professional and are working in the field of upbringing and eductation.

You will probably use the word "upbringing" to explain how children are brought up within the families and "education" when the children are brought up in institutions like schools. I am, for instance, a master of education", but my Danish title is "cand.pæd." (equally master of pedagogy, which is taught at the university).
My point is that there are a lot of situations where it is very difficult to find a specific word for a specific way of doing things in a foreign language. The words are invented due to the situations in which they occur. There is, however, nothing wrong with the question, but the above mentioned must be considered, I think.
Do you agree?

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[nq:2]Sorry, a typo, the last sentence should be read as "..when she turns 2". Kevin[/nq]
[nq:1]I really don't think that there is any BrE word (or words) which specifically describe this situation. I suppose you could say "intermediate joiner", "late joiner", "late arrival", "mid-way starter" - or any combination of these. But I can't think of a 'technical' description.[/nq]
I'm not aware of a term for this situation in AmE either, but I doubt that "inserting student" would be understood. Perhaps the term most likely to be understood is a "new student" in the class.

Bill in Kentucky

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[nq:1]I'm not aware of a term for this situation in AmE either, but I doubt that "inserting student" would be understood. Perhaps the term most likely to be understood is a "new student" in the class.[/nq]
Schools undoubtedly have an administrative term for this situation. In the absence of knowing what that term is, though, I'd say that referring to something like a "mid-year entrant" would be clear enough to most people.

Cheers, Harvey
CanEng and BrEng, indiscriminately mixed

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[nq:1]On 02 Feb 2010, Bill McCray wrote[/nq]
[nq:2]I'm not aware of a term for this situation in ... to be understood is a "new student" in the class.[/nq]
[nq:1]Schools undoubtedly have an administrative term for this situation. In the absence of knowing what that term is, though, I'd say that referring to something like a "mid-year entrant" would be clear enough to most people.[/nq]
That's a pretty good term - maybe also "mid-term entrant" (the 'other' sort of "term", of course).

Ian

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[nq:2]Schools undoubtedly have an administrative term for this situation. In ... a "mid-year entrant" would be clear enough to most people.[/nq]
[nq:1]That's a pretty good term - maybe also "mid-term entrant" (the 'other' sort of "term", of course).[/nq]
Indeed; I considered that one, too, but I think it would refer to specific type of "mid-year entrant" a pupil who entered during, rather than between, school terms.

Cheers, Harvey
CanEng and BrEng, indiscriminately mixed

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[nq:2]On 02 Feb 2010, Bill McCray wrote Schools undoubtedly have ... a "mid-year entrant" would be clear enough to most people.[/nq]
[nq:1]That's a pretty good term - maybe also "mid-term entrant" (the 'other' sort of "term", of course).[/nq]
The phrase might be "deferred entrant".

http://www.gettherightschool.co.uk/children-born-in-summer-starting-later.html

At What Age Should My Child Start School?
Your child will start school the September term after their fourth birthday. Your child will turn five within this first school year.

If your son or daughter was born between the 1st of September and the 28th (or 29th February if a leap year) then you should reasonably expect he or she to start schooling in the September term after their 4th birthday. If you child was born during the summer months then there may be a possibility that you can defer their start date until January.
Deferred Admissions
A deferred admission is the right of any parent whose child is of statutory school age but who wishes to defer their admission until the January term when their child will be that little bit older. For example if your son or daughter was born in a summer month, which would make them a particularly young four-year-old in September, then you can in some instances defer their starting date until the Spring term which commences in January of the following year.

Parents do not have a legal obligation to make arrangements for their child to attend school until the beginning of the term following their 4th birthday, so if that fourth birthday falls between 1 January and 31 August, for example, parents can request to defer admission until the beginning of January the following year.

I've tried to find useful information about nursery school entry, but there seems to be considerable variation. One problem is that "nursery school" is used with different meanings. This is an example of public sector nursery schools:
http://www.staffordshire.gov.uk/education/admissions/nursery/

Pupils are admitted to these schools at a single point of entry in the September of the year in which they become four.

Peter Duncanson, UK
(in alt.english.usage)

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On 2010-02-02 13:23:35 +0100, Ian Jackson
[nq:2]Sorry, a typo, the last sentence should be read as "..when she turns 2". Kevin[/nq]
[nq:1]I really don't think that there is any BrE word (or words) which specifically describe this situation.[/nq]
and even if there were, it would be sufficiently little known and used to need to be defined on first mention.
[nq:1]I suppose you could say "intermediate joiner", "late joiner", "late arrival", "mid-way starter" - or any combination of these. But I can't think of a 'technical' description.[/nq]
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