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NL888 Posted 13 years ago
Grammar

What does "bar" mean here? Except?

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Relevant sources[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Historicity_of_Jesus&action=edit§ion=12]

Mara bar Sarapion[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Historicity_of_Jesus&action=edit§ion=13]
Main article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mara_Bar-Serapion_on_Jesus

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mara_Bar-Serapion (son of Sarapion) was a http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stoicism from the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syria_(Roman_province).[101][199] Sometime between 73 AD and the 3rd century, Mara wrote a letter to his son (also called Sarapion) which may contain an early non-Christian reference to the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crucifixion_of_Jesus.[101][200][201]
The letter refers to the unjust treatment of "three wise men": the murder of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socrates, the burning of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pythagoras, and the execution of "the wise king" of the Jews.[101][199] The author explains that in all three cases the wrongdoing resulted in the future punishment of those responsible by God and that when the wise are oppressed, not only does their wisdom triumph in the end, but God punishes their oppressors.[201]

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Hi In modern-day English, 'bar' does mean 'except' But here it is part of the last name of a person from the Middle East. In that case, it means 'Son of'' It is not strictly a word in itself here: it is included in the person's last name to show that he is the son of Serapion Dave

  • Hi In modern-day English, 'bar' does mean 'except' But here it is part of the last name of a person from the Middle East.
  • In that case, it means 'Son of'' It is not strictly a word in itself here: it is included in the person's last name to show that he is the son of Serapion Dave
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Hi

In modern-day English, 'bar' does mean 'except'

But here it is part of the last name of a person from the Middle East. In that case, it means 'Son of''

It is not strictly a word in itself here: it is included in the person's last name to show that he is the son of Serapion

Dave
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_surname
In the Jewish patronymic system the first name is followed by either ben- or bat- ("son of" and "daughter of," respectively), and then the father's name. (Bar-, "son of" in Aramaic, is also seen).
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Mara bar Sarapion would be named Mara Sarapionson in English.

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