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We are all bacon here

Final paragraph of an article at
http://mobilemediaph.com/projectE/PrintSupplement/ethel 2latesierra.html

"Have you every heard the joke that goes: What's the difference between commitment and involvement? Well, it's the difference between eggs and bacon the chicken is committed but the pig is involved. When it comes to biodiversity conservation and the ecosystem, try as we might to pretend to be good chickens in truth, we are all bacon here."
I get exactly two Google hits for "pig is involved" +"chicken is committed"...517 for the converse, which is the only way that really makes sense...I wouldn't even have thought to try it the other way, except that I was recently reminded of a former boss of mine who said it exactly the way this ecology page does, and was convinced his way was right..

This follows an attempt to find the actual meanings of a common pair of phrases:

"walk the walk" 83,400 hits
"talk the talk" 64,000
"walk the talk" 43,300
"talk the walk" 1,670
Same boss who confused the pig and the chicken felt that "walk the walk" referred to greater "buy-in" and he couldn't be swayed...I do find one site that explains the homogenized forms as follows:
"'Walking the talk' is living up to your words, but you also need to 'Talk the walk' and be clear about the walk you want to take."

Is this more obvious to other people than it is to me?...because I can't see how they derive that meaning from the given words..r
  

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html "Have you every heard the joke that goes: What's the difference between ... [/nq] Your opening had me puzzled. I agree with you here.

  • html "Have you every heard the joke that goes: What's the difference between ...
  • [/nq] Your opening had me puzzled.
  • I agree with you here.
  • r[/nq] I have never, knowingly, encountered anything but "walk the walk" and "talk the talk".
  • I would equate "walk the talk" with "practise what you preach".
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[nq:1]Final paragraph of an article at http://mobilemediaph.com/projectE/PrintSupplement/ethel 2latesierra.html "Have you every heard the joke that goes: What's the difference between ... boss of mine who said it exactly the way this ecology page does, and was convinced his way was right..[/nq]
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[nq:2]This follows an attempt to find the actual meanings of a common pair of phrases: "walk the walk" 83,400 hits "talk the talk" 64,000 "walk the talk" 43,300 "talk the walk" 1,670 Same boss who confused the pig and the chicken felt that "walk the walk" referred to greater "buy-in" and he couldn't be swayed...I do find one site that explains the homogenized forms as follows: "'Walking the talk'
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[nq:1]Same boss who confused the pig and the chicken felt that "walk the walk" referred to greater "buy-in" and he ... to other people than it is to me?...because I can't see how they derive that meaning from the given words..r[/nq]
A version I've seen on wall-posters here is:
"You can talk the talk, but can you walk the walk?"

It is supposed to mean that leading by example is
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[nq:2]Same boss who confused the pig and the chicken felt ... see how they derive that meaning from the given words..r[/nq]
[nq:1]A version I've seen on wall-posters here is: "You can talk the talk, but can you walk the walk?" It ... I think this sort of language is some copywriter's idea of how football coaches talk to their boys at halftime.[/nq]
From another viewpoint:
"You can talk
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[nq:2]I have never, knowingly, encountered anything but "walk the walk" and "talk the talk".[/nq]
[nq:1]Same here. My understanding is that it comes from the American Civil Rights movement of the 1950s. Someone who said ... and Tastifyin , but it doesn't appear in the index and a glance through the book doesn't turn it up.[/nq]
The earliest Proquest cite I can find for the standard version
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I take exception to the Subject line of this thread. I am not Baconn.

Michael Hamm NB: Of late, my e-mail address is being AM, Math, Wash. U. St. Louis 'spoofed' a bit. That is, spammers send (Email Removed) e-mail that seems to be from me. Please http://math.wustl.edu/~msh210
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[nq:1]I take exception to the Subject line of this thread. I am not Baconn. Michael Hamm[/nq]
In a pig's eye!
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[nq:1]Same here. My understanding is that it comes from the American Civil Rights movement of the 1950s. Someone who said ... and Tastifyin , but it doesn't appear in the index and a glance through the book doesn't turn it up.[/nq]
[nq:2]I would equate "walk the talk" with "practise what you preach".[/nq]
[nq:1]I'm not sure how (or if) I'd understand it.[/nq]
I always assumed it derive
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Michael Hamm filted:
[nq:1]I take exception to the Subject line of this thread. I am not Baconn.[/nq]
My mother was an extra in the movie "Jeanne Eagels", which starred Agnes Moorehead..
Agnes Moorehead was in "How the West Was Won" with Eli Wallach..

And Eli Wallach was in "Mystic River" with Kevin Bacon..

If we're not all Bacon here, we may nonetheless be sausage, b
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[nq:1]Michael Hamm filted:[/nq]
[nq:2]I take exception to the Subject line of this thread. I am not Baconn.[/nq]
[nq:1]My mother was an extra in the movie "Jeanne Eagels", which starred Agnes Moorehead.. Agnes Moorehead was in "How the ... "Mystic River" with Kevin Bacon.. If we're not all Bacon here, we may nonetheless be sausage, because we're all linked.[/nq]
And here's the link: .

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