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Watched "The Aviator"
I didn't plan to. It just sort of happened (my wife brought it home).
Not absolutely, positively, totally horrible. Just long. Very long.
Possible spoilers...
Leonardo DiCaprio? Why? He may be a fairly decent actor (at least some people think he is), but as Howard Hughes? Maybe Howard Hughes at 15, but as a man? I'm sorry, I just couldn't get past the "kid playing an adult with the big people clothes" thing. Leonardo DiCaprio just doesn't look like he's grown up yet not his fault, just reality. Consequently his girlfriends (especially the woman playing Kate Hepburn) tend to come across as his mothers.
Maybe I'm the only one who couldn't get past the kid thing, but it made the whole movie hard for me to watch.
I also had a problem with the overall theme which didn't seem to exist. Lots going on, lots of splash and noise, a long series of garish events, but coming from where* and leading to *what? "Quarantine?" Was that it? The whole point?
For example, they must have spent 30 minutes on the "Hell Fighters" sequence. I understand that it took a long time to make this movie, but couldn't this have been shown in about half the time in "The Aviator?" The whole thing seemed out of proportion and almost pointless.
The whole movie seemed this way. Long build-ups and small payoffs.
What I did like about the movie is all the stuff about TWA, PanAm (Alan Alda did a great* crooked politician) and Hughes Aircraft. Now I would really like to see a good documentary on Hughes, his airplanes and TWA which I think would be much more interesting than the movie. But even here, when dealing with Hughes' innovations, "The Aviator" dwelled on three failures. A speed plane that crashes. A spy plane that crashes. And the "Spruce Goose" which flew one time and became a tourist trap. Hughes Aerospace became a very big corporation. They must have made *something that actually worked!
Some folks see quality in this movie. Nominated for 5 Oscars and pretty highly regarded on IMDB. Maybe I'm just getting jaded in my old age.
RonB
"There's a story there...somewhere"
Not absolutely, positively, totally horrible. Just long. Very long.
Possible spoilers...
Leonardo DiCaprio? Why? He may be a fairly decent actor (at least some people think he is), but as Howard Hughes? Maybe Howard Hughes at 15, but as a man? I'm sorry, I just couldn't get past the "kid playing an adult with the big people clothes" thing. Leonardo DiCaprio just doesn't look like he's grown up yet not his fault, just reality. Consequently his girlfriends (especially the woman playing Kate Hepburn) tend to come across as his mothers.
Maybe I'm the only one who couldn't get past the kid thing, but it made the whole movie hard for me to watch.
I also had a problem with the overall theme which didn't seem to exist. Lots going on, lots of splash and noise, a long series of garish events, but coming from where* and leading to *what? "Quarantine?" Was that it? The whole point?
For example, they must have spent 30 minutes on the "Hell Fighters" sequence. I understand that it took a long time to make this movie, but couldn't this have been shown in about half the time in "The Aviator?" The whole thing seemed out of proportion and almost pointless.
The whole movie seemed this way. Long build-ups and small payoffs.
What I did like about the movie is all the stuff about TWA, PanAm (Alan Alda did a great* crooked politician) and Hughes Aircraft. Now I would really like to see a good documentary on Hughes, his airplanes and TWA which I think would be much more interesting than the movie. But even here, when dealing with Hughes' innovations, "The Aviator" dwelled on three failures. A speed plane that crashes. A spy plane that crashes. And the "Spruce Goose" which flew one time and became a tourist trap. Hughes Aerospace became a very big corporation. They must have made *something that actually worked!
Some folks see quality in this movie. Nominated for 5 Oscars and pretty highly regarded on IMDB. Maybe I'm just getting jaded in my old age.
RonB
"There's a story there...somewhere"
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RonB expressed precisely : [nq:1]Leonardo DiCaprio? Why? He may be a fairly decent actor (at least some people think he is), but as Howard ...
- RonB expressed precisely : [nq:1]Leonardo DiCaprio?
- Why?
- He may be a fairly decent actor (at least some people think he is), but as Howard ...
- his fault, just reality.
- [/nq] Gosh, I hope this poster on imdb doesn't surf Leo's name and find this post.
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RonB expressed precisely :
[nq:1]Leonardo DiCaprio? Why? He may be a fairly decent actor (at least some people think he is), but as Howard ... his fault, just reality. Consequently his girlfriends (especially the woman playing Kate Hepburn) tend to come across as his mothers.[/nq]
Gosh, I hope this poster on imdb doesn't surf Leo's name and find this post. She thinks he's THE GREATEST ACTO
[nq:1]Leonardo DiCaprio? Why? He may be a fairly decent actor (at least some people think he is), but as Howard ... his fault, just reality. Consequently his girlfriends (especially the woman playing Kate Hepburn) tend to come across as his mothers.[/nq]
Gosh, I hope this poster on imdb doesn't surf Leo's name and find this post. She thinks he's THE GREATEST ACTO
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[nq:1]RonB expressed precisely :[/nq]
[nq:2]Leonardo DiCaprio? Why? He may be a fairly decent actor ... playing Kate Hepburn) tend to come across as his mothers.[/nq]
[nq:1]Gosh, I hope this poster on imdb doesn't surf Leo's name and find this post. She thinks he's THE GREATEST ... imitating a blind guy, but Leo was, oh, I don't know, 'channeling' Hughes. Boy, howdy, she'd give you what fo
[nq:2]Leonardo DiCaprio? Why? He may be a fairly decent actor ... playing Kate Hepburn) tend to come across as his mothers.[/nq]
[nq:1]Gosh, I hope this poster on imdb doesn't surf Leo's name and find this post. She thinks he's THE GREATEST ... imitating a blind guy, but Leo was, oh, I don't know, 'channeling' Hughes. Boy, howdy, she'd give you what fo
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[nq:1]I didn't plan to. It just sort of happened (my wife brought it home). Not absolutely, positively, totally horrible. Just ... pretty highly regarded on IMDB. Maybe I'm just getting jaded in my old age. RonB "There's a story there...somewhere"[/nq]
Well, on some level, the choices connect, I think, to the larger theme of Hughes as a man who, because of this fatal flaw of his, is constantly
Well, on some level, the choices connect, I think, to the larger theme of Hughes as a man who, because of this fatal flaw of his, is constantly
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[nq:1]Well, on some level, the choices connect, I think, to the larger theme of Hughes as a man who, ... and yet despite that despite the falls, he keeps rising, keeps dreaming, keeps reaching for the next star (ahem).[/nq]
Thanks. I wasn't perceptive enough to pick up on this. I'm still not crazy about the movie, but at least this makes sense.
RonB
"There's a story there...somewh
Thanks. I wasn't perceptive enough to pick up on this. I'm still not crazy about the movie, but at least this makes sense.
RonB
"There's a story there...somewh
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[nq:1]I didn't plan to. It just sort of happened (my wife brought it home). Not absolutely, positively, totally horrible. Just long. Very long.[/nq]
I didn't think it was horrible at all, but I do agree 100% with your views on Leonardo DiCaprio (snipped from this reply).
Hughes was a MUCH bigger character than DiCaprio could possibly have achieved. Also there was no reference to his l
I didn't think it was horrible at all, but I do agree 100% with your views on Leonardo DiCaprio (snipped from this reply).
Hughes was a MUCH bigger character than DiCaprio could possibly have achieved. Also there was no reference to his l
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[nq:2]I didn't plan to. It just sort of happened (my wife brought it home). Not absolutely, positively, totally horrible. Just long. Very long.[/nq]
[nq:1] I didn't think it was horrible at all, but I do agree 100% with your views on Leonardo DiCaprio ... Portman, etc) but failing that I've seen them all and I think the Academy got it right this year. .[/nq]
I thought all four actors in Cl
[nq:1] I didn't think it was horrible at all, but I do agree 100% with your views on Leonardo DiCaprio ... Portman, etc) but failing that I've seen them all and I think the Academy got it right this year. .[/nq]
I thought all four actors in Cl
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[nq:1]It's not it's a neurological condition. It doesn't have anything to do with how you were brought up.[/nq]
And it's NOT characterization, which is what cheezed me off, now you've given me a whole new set of things to be annoyed about! Wasn't this a hire job though? Not a project he brought to the studio? I don't know where I got that impression...
Mysti
And it's NOT characterization, which is what cheezed me off, now you've given me a whole new set of things to be annoyed about! Wasn't this a hire job though? Not a project he brought to the studio? I don't know where I got that impression...
Mysti
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[nq:1]It's not it's a neurological condition. It doesn't have anything to do with how you were brought up.[/nq]
And it's NOT characterization, which is what cheezed me off, now you've given me a whole new set of things to be annoyed about! Wasn't this a hire job though? Not a project he brought to the studio? I don't know where I got that impression...
Mysti
And it's NOT characterization, which is what cheezed me off, now you've given me a whole new set of things to be annoyed about! Wasn't this a hire job though? Not a project he brought to the studio? I don't know where I got that impression...
Mysti
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