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Usenet Posted 21 years ago
Screenwriting
Watched "Ocean's 12"
Possible minor SPOILERS...
Am I just getting cynical in my old age, or did this thing take like forever to get going? Over 20 minutes before they started really doing anything. For some reason they decided we had to meet everyone from "Ocean's 11" in their native habitats. Why? I think the two main characters would have been enough then the obligatory "meet and greet" and then get going 5-7 minutes tops. Besides, I didn't remember any of these characters anyhow. I thought, crap, maybe I should have watched "Ocean's 11" again so I could place all these people. Then I thought do I really give a rat's ass what they are doing at their homes most of them were just faces anyhow and then they were "throw aways" in this movie.
Maybe I have a tin ear, but the sound track sounded weird to me. Was it supposed to imply "European" or something?
The story seemed thin like they could have done it in an hour if they got going. (And maybe that's why they spent 20 minutes re-introducing every player.) Worse than this though, is the fact that the actors didn't convince me that there really was any urgency. The whole bit with Bruce Willis being Bruce Willis and Julia Roberts pretending to be Julia Roberts kind of fell flat for me. It was like the writer, director and actors were telling the viewers that this was getting too stupid to take seriously so you might as well try a little laughing. Then it seemed like they took you about 20 different directions for no particular reason.
It sure seems like they could have made better use of all these well known actors.
RonB
"There's a story there...somewhere"
Am I just getting cynical in my old age, or did this thing take like forever to get going? Over 20 minutes before they started really doing anything. For some reason they decided we had to meet everyone from "Ocean's 11" in their native habitats. Why? I think the two main characters would have been enough then the obligatory "meet and greet" and then get going 5-7 minutes tops. Besides, I didn't remember any of these characters anyhow. I thought, crap, maybe I should have watched "Ocean's 11" again so I could place all these people. Then I thought do I really give a rat's ass what they are doing at their homes most of them were just faces anyhow and then they were "throw aways" in this movie.
Maybe I have a tin ear, but the sound track sounded weird to me. Was it supposed to imply "European" or something?
The story seemed thin like they could have done it in an hour if they got going. (And maybe that's why they spent 20 minutes re-introducing every player.) Worse than this though, is the fact that the actors didn't convince me that there really was any urgency. The whole bit with Bruce Willis being Bruce Willis and Julia Roberts pretending to be Julia Roberts kind of fell flat for me. It was like the writer, director and actors were telling the viewers that this was getting too stupid to take seriously so you might as well try a little laughing. Then it seemed like they took you about 20 different directions for no particular reason.
It sure seems like they could have made better use of all these well known actors.
RonB
"There's a story there...somewhere"
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[nq:1]Possible minor SPOILERS... The story seemed thin like they could have done it in an hour if they got ... [/nq] That little wink and nudge completely and utterly killed the movie for me.
- [nq:1]Possible minor SPOILERS...
- The story seemed thin like they could have done it in an hour if they got ...
- [/nq] That little wink and nudge completely and utterly killed the movie for me.
- Hey, way to yank me right out of the movi, guys.
- It's as though they ran out of material after thirty minytes and just started stretching and going in all directions trying to fill time.
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[nq:1]Possible minor SPOILERS... The story seemed thin like they could have done it in an hour if they got ... with Bruce Willis being Bruce Willis and Julia Roberts pretending to be Julia Roberts kind of fell flat for me.[/nq]
That little wink and nudge completely and utterly killed the movie for me. Hey, way to yank me right out of the movi, guys. It's as though they ran out of material afte
That little wink and nudge completely and utterly killed the movie for me. Hey, way to yank me right out of the movi, guys. It's as though they ran out of material afte
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[nq:2]Possible minor SPOILERS... The story seemed thin like they ... to be Julia Roberts kind of fell flat for me.[/nq]
[nq:1]That little wink and nudge completely and utterly killed the movie for me. Hey, way to yank me right out ... ran out of material after thirty minytes and just started stretching and going in all directions trying to fill time.[/nq]
Must have happened after I ran out
[nq:1]That little wink and nudge completely and utterly killed the movie for me. Hey, way to yank me right out ... ran out of material after thirty minytes and just started stretching and going in all directions trying to fill time.[/nq]
Must have happened after I ran out
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[nq:1]The whole bit with Bruce Willis being Bruce Willis and Julia Roberts pretending to be Julia Roberts kind of fell flat for me.[/nq]
I saw it opening weekend in the theater, and, for what it's worth, the packed house LOVED this gag.
Although to me it came at a really high price - the reality of the rest of the movie.
I think I wrote more about it at the time. It's a pale shadow of
I saw it opening weekend in the theater, and, for what it's worth, the packed house LOVED this gag.
Although to me it came at a really high price - the reality of the rest of the movie.
I think I wrote more about it at the time. It's a pale shadow of
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[nq:1]Possible minor SPOILERS...[/nq]
Possible MAJOR SPOILERS...
[nq:1]Am I just getting cynical in my old age, or did this thing take like forever to get going?[/nq]
IMO, it never did.
[nq:1]The story seemed thin like they could have done it in an hour if they got going. (And maybe ... player.) Worse than this though, is the fact that the actors didn't convince me that there reall
Possible MAJOR SPOILERS...
[nq:1]Am I just getting cynical in my old age, or did this thing take like forever to get going?[/nq]
IMO, it never did.
[nq:1]The story seemed thin like they could have done it in an hour if they got going. (And maybe ... player.) Worse than this though, is the fact that the actors didn't convince me that there reall
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[nq:1](except for that dance routine through the lasers; *** how stupid was that?),[/nq]
And it went on FOREVER!
And it went on FOREVER!
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[nq:2]Possible minor SPOILERS...[/nq]
[nq:1]Possible MAJOR SPOILERS... The worst thing about it for me was the payoff. Or rather, the lack thereof. Okay, so they stole it beforehand. What the **** were they doing all this time, then?? Why have I been wasting my time watching these stupid games?[/nq]
I'll give you kudos for making an effort to figure out the double-cross, double-double-cros
[nq:1]Possible MAJOR SPOILERS... The worst thing about it for me was the payoff. Or rather, the lack thereof. Okay, so they stole it beforehand. What the **** were they doing all this time, then?? Why have I been wasting my time watching these stupid games?[/nq]
I'll give you kudos for making an effort to figure out the double-cross, double-double-cros
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[nq:1]Must have happened after I ran out steam and hit the Stop button[/nq]
I didn't have enough steam left to hit the "Stop" button.
RonB
"There's a story there...somewhere"
I didn't have enough steam left to hit the "Stop" button.
RonB
"There's a story there...somewhere"
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[nq:1]That little wink and nudge completely and utterly killed the movie for me. Hey, way to yank me right out ... ran out of material after thirty minytes and just started stretching and going in all directions trying to fill time.[/nq]
That's kind of how it "hit" me. It's another movie where it seems incredible that they wouldn't find a decent script when they're spending all that money on t
That's kind of how it "hit" me. It's another movie where it seems incredible that they wouldn't find a decent script when they're spending all that money on t
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[nq:1]I saw it opening weekend in the theater, and, for what it's worth, the packed house LOVED this gag. Although to me it came at a really high price - the reality of the rest of the movie.[/nq]
The idea was kind of funny for a comedy. But you're right, how are we supposed to take the rest of the movie seriously? This was supposed to be suspenseful.
[nq:1]I think I wrote more about it at
The idea was kind of funny for a comedy. But you're right, how are we supposed to take the rest of the movie seriously? This was supposed to be suspenseful.
[nq:1]I think I wrote more about it at
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You have a point.
[nq:2]The story seemed thin like they could have done ... actors didn't convince me that there really was any urgency.[/nq]
[nq:1]The worst thing about it for me was the payoff. Or rather, the lack thereof. Okay, so they stole it ... of the cleverness of the first one (that is, the remake). It was all dressed up with nowhere to go.[/nq]
Funny. I kind of liked the idea
[nq:2]The story seemed thin like they could have done ... actors didn't convince me that there really was any urgency.[/nq]
[nq:1]The worst thing about it for me was the payoff. Or rather, the lack thereof. Okay, so they stole it ... of the cleverness of the first one (that is, the remake). It was all dressed up with nowhere to go.[/nq]
Funny. I kind of liked the idea
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