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W The Vowel

As a Scrabble player (ok, a Scrabble brand crossword game player) I've had occasion to use two words that use the "w" as a vowel. They are both high-scoring words, "crwth" (a lute-like instrument) and "cwm" (a valley).
I'm curious to know if there are any other words used in the English language that use the "w" as a vowel, or use another unlikely letter as a vowel.
Anyone?
  

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[nq:1]As a Scrabble player (ok, a Scrabble brand crossword game player) I've had occasion to use two words that use the "w" as a vowel. [/nq] These are both words of Welsh origin. "cwm" is a shallow valley.

  • [nq:1]As a Scrabble player (ok, a Scrabble brand crossword game player) I've had occasion to use two words that use the "w" as a vowel.
  • [/nq] These are both words of Welsh origin.
  • "cwm" is a shallow valley.
  • "crwth" is, as you say, a musical instrument.
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[nq:1]As a Scrabble player (ok, a Scrabble brand crossword game player) I've had occasion to use two words that use the "w" as a vowel. They are both high-scoring words, "crwth" (a lute-like instrument) and "cwm" (a valley).[/nq]
These are both words of Welsh origin.
"cwm" is a shallow valley.
"crwth" is, as you say, a musical instrument.
OED:
crwth
The Welsh form of CROWD
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[nq:2]As a Scrabble player (ok, a Scrabble brand crossword game ... high-scoring words, "crwth" (a lute-like instrument) and "cwm" (a valley).[/nq]
[nq:1]These are both words of Welsh origin. "cwm" is a shallow valley.[/nq]
"1951 Times 27 Nov. 5/7 While 'cwm' may occur+purely as a place-name+technically the word is restricted to the huge cauldron-shaped hollows found high up on heavily gla
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[nq:2]These are both words of Welsh origin. "cwm" is a shallow valley.[/nq]
[nq:1]"1951 Times 27 Nov. 5/7 While 'cwm' may occur+purely as a place-name+technically the word is restricted to the huge cauldron-shaped hollows found high up on heavily glaciated slopes." - OED[/nq]
I took the definition from a booklet of "Welsh Place Names, Their Meanings Explained" written by a Welshman. Perhap
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[nq:1]As a Scrabble player (ok, a Scrabble brand crossword game player) I've had occasion to use two words that use ... in the English language that use the "w" as a vowel, or use another unlikely letter as a vowel. Anyone?[/nq]
I am no native spekaer, mind, but I know that some native speakers use "p" in the word "pwned" ;-).

qt
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[nq:2]As a Scrabble player (ok, a Scrabble brand crossword game ... vowel, or use another unlikely letter as a vowel. Anyone?[/nq]
[nq:1]I am no native spekaer, mind, but I know that some native speakers use "p" in the word "pwned" ;-).[/nq]
Oh, I know there are other uses of "w" as a vowel, because of its classification as a "semi-vowel/semi-consonant". However, QT, you have pointed out a
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[nq:1]And, I ask, is "w" in "two" a vowel?[/nq]
Since it's a consonant in related words like "twice," "twelve," and "twenty," I'd say no, it's a silent consonant.
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[nq:2]And, I ask, is "w" in "two" a vowel?[/nq]
[nq:1]Since it's a consonant in related words like "twice," "twelve," and "twenty," I'd say no, it's a silent consonant.[/nq]
Thanks. I know it wis a throw-away question, but the insertion and deletion of the consonant kind of confuses the issue. (Is there some source that is definitive on this matter?)
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Main Entry:
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[nq:1]As a Scrabble player (ok, a Scrabble brand crossword game player) I've had occasion to use two words that use ... in the English language that use the "w" as a vowel, or use another unlikely letter as a vowel. Anyone?[/nq]
Unrelated, except that it invovles a W. How is the Polish name Ewa pronounced? In Polish.
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[nq:2]As a Scrabble player (ok, a Scrabble brand crossword game ... vowel, or use another unlikely letter as a vowel. Anyone?[/nq]
[nq:1]Unrelated, except that it invovles a W. How is the Polish name Ewa pronounced? In Polish.[/nq]
I don't know about specifically Polish, but if it is the same as in the rest of East-Central Europe, it should be "eh-vah", the stress on the 'e'.
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[nq:1]Now, I know some Germans and speakers of other European languages have a tendency to do "tventy", (in other words, to consonantalize the "w"), don't others tend to vocalize (vowelize) the "w"? I mean, don't they say too-enty?[/nq]
I think you're conflating two questions here: Whether the W sound* is a vowel sound, and whether the *letter W is used as a vowel or a consonant. The W

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