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NL888 Posted 18 years ago
Grammar
Viva il Papa? Misspelling?
0 Should "Viva il Papa" be "Viva Papa?" 02 br
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00 Jennifer Sela, 18, came with other members of the Cathedral of Sacred Heart band in Newark for a chance to serenade the Pope. She brought her guitar, while others played the drums as cheers of 01 b 00 "Viva il Papa" 02 b 00 echoed. 02 br
01 a 05 0 00 02 a 0230href http://www.nydailynews.com/news/2008/04/19/2008-04-19_as_popemobile_rolls_along_fifth_ave_devo.html
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00 Context: 02 br
00 Jennifer Sela, 18, came with other members of the Cathedral of Sacred Heart band in Newark for a chance to serenade the Pope. She brought her guitar, while others played the drums as cheers of 01 b 00 "Viva il Papa" 02 b 00 echoed. 02 br
01 a 05 0 00 02 a 0230href http://www.nydailynews.com/news/2008/04/19/2008-04-19_as_popemobile_rolls_along_fifth_ave_devo.html
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0 " 01 i 00 Viva il Papa 02 i 00 " is perfect ... in Italian! 05 0 010id 5
- 0 " 01 i 00 Viva il Papa 02 i 00 " is perfect ...
- in Italian!
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0 " 01 i 00 Viva il Papa 02 i 00 " is perfect ... in Italian! 05 0 010id 5
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0 Hi NL888 02 br
00 It's hard to say whether there is a typo/misquote in the article. It's entirely possible that some people in the crowd were chanting "Viva il Papa" while others were chanting "Viva Papa". Or did you actually want to know whether both versions would be grammatically correct in Italian? 0-
00 It's hard to say whether there is a typo/misquote in the article. It's entirely possible that some people in the crowd were chanting "Viva il Papa" while others were chanting "Viva Papa". Or did you actually want to know whether both versions would be grammatically correct in Italian? 0-
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01 cite 10 NL888 12 cite 10 Should "Viva il Papa" be "Viva Papa?" 12 blockquote10 No! Not if we trust the hearing of the journalist who quoted what he heard! And anyway, maybe some of the spectators were speaking Italian while others were speaking Latin. 05 0 02 br
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0 This is correct Italian: Viva il Papa!! This is the most awesome cheer for the pope right now. We screamed it at least 50 times while he was here in DC and NYC!!!! VIVA IL PAPA!!!!! 0-
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0 Thank you all. 02 br
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00 But how to pronounce "il" in the "Viva il Papa?" I winced as I tried to pronounce "il" as "ill." 0-
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00 But how to pronounce "il" in the "Viva il Papa?" I winced as I tried to pronounce "il" as "ill." 0-
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0 Hello! 02 br
00 In Italian the pronunciation of the article "il" is somehow similar to that of "ill" though the sound of the letter "l" is not as emphasized as in the English word. You can try saying "ill" but shortening the sound of the double "l". 02 br
00 By the way, "Viva il Papa" (Long live the Pope!) is correct in Italian, whereas "Viva, Papa!" could be a weird way to
00 In Italian the pronunciation of the article "il" is somehow similar to that of "ill" though the sound of the letter "l" is not as emphasized as in the English word. You can try saying "ill" but shortening the sound of the double "l". 02 br
00 By the way, "Viva il Papa" (Long live the Pope!) is correct in Italian, whereas "Viva, Papa!" could be a weird way to
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I recall in my High school Italian class we were taught to use the proper gender in this case. "La" indicates a "feminine" (female) description of noun/title; whereas "Il" indicates "male". Therefore, VIVA IL PAPA remains to be the correct.
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that kind of redundant don't think has papa and peter both mean father, in German/french/spanish has part of the latin roots
ie PETER PAN is FATHER PAN
ie PETER PAN is FATHER PAN
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Anonymouspapa and peter both mean fatherWhere in the world are you getting this information? "Peter" goes all the way back to an Indo-European root meaning "stone"; hence, petroglyph (writing on rocks), petrify (to turn to stone), petrol (oil extracted from rock). It's got nothing to do with "father".
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