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Anonymous Posted 19 years ago
Grammar
VERY MUCH >>> in the comparative and superlative form
0 Here is a question I have received from a student while covering "comparative" and "superlative". 01 h2
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00 I have gone over recent postings of the topic, and I do not need "quotations" or "definitions" of the word VERY and MUCH. It left me more confused, which is why I decided to post my question. 02 br
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00 I know VERY MORE and VERY MOST is incorrect. But my student wants to know "why" it's incorrect or not used. 02 br
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00 *** For Japanese students >> translating VERY, MORE, MUCH, etc. will land you with the same Japanese translation in the English/Japanese dictionary. 01 h2
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00 Another question: 02 br
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00 Is there a difference when saying the following? 02 br
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00 Very much Praised >> Very praised >>> Much praised 02 br
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00 Will this all be the same meaning?? Which is the higher degree, if there is one? 02 br
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00 Thank you in advance! 0-
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00 VERY MUCH >>> why not VERY MORE or VERY MOST?? 02 br02 br
00 I have gone over recent postings of the topic, and I do not need "quotations" or "definitions" of the word VERY and MUCH. It left me more confused, which is why I decided to post my question. 02 br
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00 I know VERY MORE and VERY MOST is incorrect. But my student wants to know "why" it's incorrect or not used. 02 br
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00 *** For Japanese students >> translating VERY, MORE, MUCH, etc. will land you with the same Japanese translation in the English/Japanese dictionary. 01 h2
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00 Another question: 02 br
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00 Is there a difference when saying the following? 02 br
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00 Very much Praised >> Very praised >>> Much praised 02 br
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00 Will this all be the same meaning?? Which is the higher degree, if there is one? 02 br
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00 Thank you in advance! 0-
Top answer
0 Hi, 02 br 02 br 00 I see that you haven't had an answer yet. 02 br 02 br 00 As you probably known, we do occasionally say things like 'He was the very best student in the class' or 'These prize-winners were the very most succesful scientists'. But it often sounds a bit dubious.
- 0 Hi, 02 br 02 br 00 I see that you haven't had an answer yet.
- 02 br 02 br 00 As you probably known, we do occasionally say things like 'He was the very best student in the class' or 'These prize-winners were the very most succesful scientists'.
- But it often sounds a bit dubious.
- I'm inclined to think the best answer to give your students is that these kinds of things we say are idiomatic, ie we say them that way because we say them that way.
- And conversely, we don't say them that way because we don't say them that way.
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0 Hi, 02 br
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00 I see that you haven't had an answer yet. One reason may be that you don't seem to want definitions or examples, so people may be unsure just what kind of answer you are looking for. 02 br
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00 As you probably known, we do occasionally say things like 'He was the very best student in the class' or 'These prize-winners were the very most suc
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00 I see that you haven't had an answer yet. One reason may be that you don't seem to want definitions or examples, so people may be unsure just what kind of answer you are looking for. 02 br
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00 As you probably known, we do occasionally say things like 'He was the very best student in the class' or 'These prize-winners were the very most suc
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0 Thank you very much Clive! I will tell my students that some things are just the way they are and can't be explained. 02 br
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00 I have done some research on my own and have discovered the following. 02 br
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00 (very) is an "Attributive Adj." modifying other Adj. that come before them (like "so", etc.) 02 br
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00 Therefore we get 02
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00 I have done some research on my own and have discovered the following. 02 br
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00 (very) is an "Attributive Adj." modifying other Adj. that come before them (like "so", etc.) 02 br
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00 Therefore we get 02
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We do not say 'very more' and 'very most' because they are illogical.
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0 "very more" is illogical, but I have to disagree with you regarding 02 br
00 "very most". Yes, it may sound funny when pronounced, but IT is 02 br
00 still grammatically correct. 02 br
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00 ".... the very most obvious cases. " 02 br
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00 "... the language which has evolved very most over the past century." 02 br
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00 "very most". Yes, it may sound funny when pronounced, but IT is 02 br
00 still grammatically correct. 02 br
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00 ".... the very most obvious cases. " 02 br
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00 "... the language which has evolved very most over the past century." 02 br
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