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Local Radio regularly tries to excite us with the promise of news of the various different events taking place in the County. My wife thinks 'various different' is tautology. I don't.
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John Dean
Oxford
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John Dean
Oxford
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[nq:1]Local Radio regularly tries to excite us with the promise of news of the various different events taking place in the County. My wife thinks 'various different' is tautology. I don't.
- [nq:1]Local Radio regularly tries to excite us with the promise of news of the various different events taking place in the County.
- My wife thinks 'various different' is tautology.
- I don't.
- [/nq] No problem - I'm with Mrs.
- Dean (1).
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[nq:1]Local Radio regularly tries to excite us with the promise of news of the various different events taking place in the County. My wife thinks 'various different' is tautology. I don't. Pick a side?[/nq]
No problem - I'm with Mrs. Dean (1). Various implies difference. It would be difficult to talk about "various same" or "various identical" things, wouldn't it?
NB: Radio 4 is l
No problem - I'm with Mrs. Dean (1). Various implies difference. It would be difficult to talk about "various same" or "various identical" things, wouldn't it?
NB: Radio 4 is l
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[nq:1]Local Radio regularly tries to excite us with the promise of news of the various different events taking place in the County. My wife thinks 'various different' is tautology. I don't. Pick a side?[/nq]
Tautology and then some. "Various different events" means the same as "events". Suitable meaningful qualifiers include: "all the", "many", "numerous", "varied", "multifarious", "di
Tautology and then some. "Various different events" means the same as "events". Suitable meaningful qualifiers include: "all the", "many", "numerous", "varied", "multifarious", "di
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[nq:1]Local Radio regularly tries to excite us with the promise of news of the various different events taking place in the County. My wife thinks 'various different' is tautology. I don't. Pick a side?[/nq]
I'm with your wife on this. Anything that varies is different from everything else in some respect, but, in this case, "various" is misused. The announcement could have said "vario
I'm with your wife on this. Anything that varies is different from everything else in some respect, but, in this case, "various" is misused. The announcement could have said "vario
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[nq:2]Local Radio regularly tries to excite us with the promise ... thinks 'various different' is tautology. I don't. Pick a side?[/nq]
[nq:1]No problem - I'm with Mrs. Dean (1). Various implies difference. It would be difficult to talk about "various same" or "various identical" things, wouldn't it?[/nq]
What about "various (but) related events?"
Maybe it is not a clear distinction.
[nq:1]No problem - I'm with Mrs. Dean (1). Various implies difference. It would be difficult to talk about "various same" or "various identical" things, wouldn't it?[/nq]
What about "various (but) related events?"
Maybe it is not a clear distinction.
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[nq:1]No problem - I'm with Mrs. Dean (1). Various implies difference. It would be difficult to talk about "various same" or "various identical" things, wouldn't it?[/nq]
Not really. "Various identical twins", or various identical triplets, or various identical quadruplets.
Not really. "Various identical twins", or various identical triplets, or various identical quadruplets.
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[nq:1]Local Radio regularly tries to excite us with the promise of news of the various different events taking place in the County. My wife thinks 'various different' is tautology. I don't. Pick a side?[/nq]
I'm on the fence. I prefer to call it redundancy because "tautology" is more used in logics, with a different meaning.
I'm on the fence. I prefer to call it redundancy because "tautology" is more used in logics, with a different meaning.
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[nq:2]Local Radio regularly tries to excite us with the promise ... thinks 'various different' is tautology. I don't. Pick a side?[/nq]
[nq:1]I'm on the fence. I prefer to call it redundancy because "tautology" is more used in logics, with a different meaning.[/nq]
I side with Mrs Dean in objecting to the phrase, but I agree with Indeterminate Gender Title Rises that it is redundant, not
[nq:1]I'm on the fence. I prefer to call it redundancy because "tautology" is more used in logics, with a different meaning.[/nq]
I side with Mrs Dean in objecting to the phrase, but I agree with Indeterminate Gender Title Rises that it is redundant, not
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[nq:1]I side with Mrs Dean in objecting to the phrase, but I agree with Indeterminate Gender Title Rises that it is redundant, not tautological.[/nq]
Good choice.
Why is "Title" part of my ad hoc nickname?
Good choice.
Why is "Title" part of my ad hoc nickname?
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[nq:2]I side with Mrs Dean in objecting to the phrase, but I agree with Indeterminate Gender Title Rises that it is redundant, not tautological.[/nq]
[nq:1]Good choice. Why is "Title" part of my ad hoc nickname?[/nq]
Your title is "Indeterminate Gender Title Rises", much as Mrs. Dean's title is "Mrs.".
[nq:1]Good choice. Why is "Title" part of my ad hoc nickname?[/nq]
Your title is "Indeterminate Gender Title Rises", much as Mrs. Dean's title is "Mrs.".
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[nq:2]Why is "Title" part of my ad hoc nickname?[/nq]
[nq:1]Your title is "Indeterminate Gender Title Rises", much as Mrs. Dean's title is "Mrs.".[/nq]
I still don't get it.Why is "Title" part of a title? Isn't that reduntant, like the titled subject?
[nq:1]Your title is "Indeterminate Gender Title Rises", much as Mrs. Dean's title is "Mrs.".[/nq]
I still don't get it.Why is "Title" part of a title? Isn't that reduntant, like the titled subject?
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