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What is a synonym of "untrained" in the following sentence, which I guess is used in a positive sense?
She sang folk songs on the street. She had a sweet, untrained voice genuine talent.
  

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[nq:1]What is a synonym of "untrained" in the following sentence, which I guess is used in a positive sense? She sang folk songs on the street. [/nq] "Untrained" in that sentence is a transferred epithet.

  • [nq:1]What is a synonym of "untrained" in the following sentence, which I guess is used in a positive sense?
  • She sang folk songs on the street.
  • [/nq] "Untrained" in that sentence is a transferred epithet.
  • The singer had received no formal training in singing.
  • Literally, then, what is untrained is the singer.
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[nq:1]What is a synonym of "untrained" in the following sentence, which I guess is used in a positive sense? She sang folk songs on the street. She had a sweet, untrained voice genuine talent.[/nq]
"Untrained" in that sentence is a transferred epithet. The singer had received no formal training in singing. Literally, then, what is untrained is the singer. By attaching "untrained" to "voice," t
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[nq:2]What is a synonym of "untrained" in the following sentence, ... on the street. She had a sweet, untrained voice genuine talent.[/nq]
[nq:1]"Untrained" in that sentence is a transferred epithet. The singer had received no formal training in singing. Literally, then, what is untrained is the singer. By attaching "untrained" to "voice," the writer is saying that the voice is that of an untr
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[nq:2]"Untrained" in that sentence is a transferred epithet. The singer ... saying that the voice is that of an untrained singer.[/nq]
[nq:1]But in this context it is meant as a compliment.[/nq]
Can I think it can be paraphrased with "natural" or "simple"?
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[nq:2]But in this context it is meant as a compliment.[/nq]
[nq:1]Can I think it can be paraphrased with "natural" or "simple"?[/nq]
Forgive the flippancy, but there's a point to it: You can think anything you want to.
What you are really asking, I assume, is whether "untrained" means the same as "natural" or "simple." The answer is that you need context to tell you. In the quotation y
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Masahiko:

Bob Leiblich:

That is what the writer is saying, but I don't read it as a transferred epithet. When the teacher trains the singer, I would say that at the same time the singer is training her own voice. So if the singer is untrained, then her voice is also untrained.
Michael Nitabach:
[nq:2]But in this context it is meant as a compliment.[/nq]
Right. That's
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[nq:2]What is a synonym of "untrained" in the following sentence, ... on the street. She had a sweet, untrained voice genuine talent.[/nq]
[nq:1]"Untrained" in that sentence is a transferred epithet. The singer had received no formal training in singing. Literally, then, what is untrained is the singer. By attaching "untrained" to "voice," the writer is saying that the voice is that of an untr
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[nq:2]"Untrained" in that sentence is a transferred epithet. The singer ... saying that the voice is that of an untrained singer.[/nq]
[nq:1]OK, it's a little bit archaic now, in the sense that one doesn't hear it very often anymore, but what about "artless"?[/nq]
"Artless" would have worked very well in the quoted sentence. When "untrained" is used negatively, I wouldn't use "artless" in
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[nq:2]What is a synonym of "untrained" in the following sentence, ... on the street. She had a sweet, untrained voice genuine talent.[/nq]
[nq:1]"Untrained" in that sentence is a transferred epithet. The singer had received no formal training in singing. Literally, then, what is untrained is the singer. By attaching "untrained" to "voice," the writer is saying that the voice is that of an untr
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[nq:2]But in this context it is meant as a compliment.[/nq]
[nq:1]Can I think it can be paraphrased with "natural" or "simple"?[/nq]
Possibly. When you want to enquire about the nuances of a particular phrase or word in a particular context, is it hard for you to understand how helpful it would be to tell us the names of the author and the work? In this case, we don't know if we are readin

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