Until before

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Is it correct to say 'until before'?For instance, is it correct to say:"This was his master creation until before Porject X."

Anonymous · Accepted Answer

Christine ChristieFor instance, is it correct to say:

No, but it is not clear what you mean.

Anonymous · Answer

Christine Christie"This was his master creation until/before (the) Poroject X."

You can not use both. Either one works and has the same meaning.

Persian Learner · Answer

"until before Project X" could mean a "short period of time before Project X".

Is that what you mean?

AlpheccaStars · Answer

Christine ChristieIs it correct to say 'until before'?

Only under very rare situations are these two words strung together. Your example is not one of these situations. I advise you not to use these two words together.

Here are some from Google ngram viewer. Note that there are very few examples to be found.

The community of about two hundred inhabitants prospered there until before the Civil War, when the settlement fell.

After the break-up of their relationship Suggia moved to London, which remained her principal base until before the Second World War.

Albert felt he had better not get the police into the act too soon because the crown wasn't promised-didn't the old gent say—until before the Sabbath, which gave him till sunset tonight.

I might say for the record that the President's Executive order made it clear that our report was not expected by him until before January 1, and of course, that is subsequent to election.

From that time until before the freeze we had thousands of acres of what we now call the ruby red which is an improvement on the previous pink.

Christine Christie"This was his master creation until before Porject X."

Here are some options.

This was his master creation until Project X in which he produced the greatest design of his career.
This was his master creation before Project X.
This was his master creation until just before Project X, when he finished a pieta sculpture, which the critics called his masterpiece.

CalifJim · Answer

since before, almost never since after.
until after, almost never until before.

CJ

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