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Corocoro Posted 10 years ago
Grammar

"until"

Hi, I have a question about how to use "until".

I understand that 'The shop is closed until Monday' means the shop will be open on Monday (not closed on Monday).

And, 'You have until Monday to submit your report.' means you can submit it on Monday.

Why doesn't the first example include the date mentioned after 'until' and the second example includes the date?
What's the difference?
  

Top answer

Both examples include 'Monday' after 'until'. Neither includes the date.

  • Both examples include 'Monday' after 'until'.
  • Neither includes the date.
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Both examples include 'Monday' after 'until'.

Neither includes the date.
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Thank you for your reply, Rover_KE.
Do you mean that 'The shop is closed until Monday' indicates the shop is closed through Monday?
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It means that the shop will stop being closed (therefore open) on Monday.
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Thank you for making it clear. That totally makes sense to me.
Then, my question arises. Does the sentence ''You have until Monday to submit your report." mean that you will have stop having time to submit on Monday (=the deadline is on Sunday)?
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corocoro Does the sentence ''You have until Monday to submit your report." mean that you will have stop having time to submit on Monday (=the deadline is on Sunday)?
To me, the deadline is Monday.
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Thank you, Mister Micawber. That's exactly what I think (=the deadline is on Monday), which makes me confused.

My understanding is that 'until ?' means something that's continued stops at '?'. But this doesn't match the deadline example (= time that you have doesn't stop on Monday).
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corocoroThank you, Mister Micawber. That's exactly what I think (=the deadline is on Monday), which makes me confused.My understanding is that 'until ?' means something that's continued stops at '?'. But this doesn't match the deadline example (= time that you have doesn't stop on Monday).
It stops at the end of Monday; Monday has duration.
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Yes, that is true, Mister Micawber.
Then, only the timing matters, I suppose.

'The shop is closed until Monday.'? The closed situation stops early on Monday.
'You have until Monday to submit your report.'? The time that you have continues at the end of Monday.

Do you agree?
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corocoroDo you agree?
Yes, I think the reader's common sense must be given room to play.
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Thank you so much! Now it's clear to me.

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