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Pastsimple Posted 20 years ago
Grammar

Unless one doesn't...

In one of my older posts, I've said:

One doesn't often mention lakes in an everyday conversation (unless one doesn't come from Minnesota or Finland).

I meant: "If you are not from Minnesota or Finland, you don't often mention..."

I'm wondering if "unless one doesn't come from" is grammatically correct. I would say it is, but why? Looking at it from a purely logical point of view:

Step#1: unless = if not
Step#2: if not + doesn't = two negatives are positive = if one comes from... (two negatives become positive) ---> this wouldn't make sense together with the first part (doesn't often mention...)

Hmm, I must have just picked up the expression somewhere.
  

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It is correct, but it's confusing. It's easy to get confused by overnegation.

  • It is correct, but it's confusing.
  • It's easy to get confused by overnegation.
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It is correct, but it's confusing. It's easy to get confused by overnegation.
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I'm fairly confident that what you meant to say was:

One doesn't often mention lakes in an everyday conversation unless one comes from Minnesota or Finland.

Compare:

You don't often mention grandchildren in a conversation unless you are a grandparent.
People don't usually enjoy speaking in public unless they are somewhat experienced at it.
Some p
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CalifJimI'm fairly confident that what you meant to say was:

One doesn't often mention lakes in an everyday conversation unless one comes from Minnesota or Finland.

Yes, I did. Somehow the two negations sounded fine, yet a bit illogical, to me. I'm sure I've seen it used that way somewhere. Nevertheless, your version is the logical an

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