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Aramahosi Posted 16 years ago
Grammar
Unclear "with"
"With f(x)’s Victoria already pencilled in, netizens are now saying that Rainbow’s Jaekyung and After School’s Jooyeon will be joining her and form the new G7 with existing members, Narsha, Hyomin, Hara and Sunhwa."
I can't get the function of the underlined with. Would you tell me the propper meaning of that? Thanks in advance.
The text quoted from http://www.allkpop.com/2010/05/rainbows-jaekyung-and-after-schools-jooyeon-for-invincible-youth
I can't get the function of the underlined with. Would you tell me the propper meaning of that? Thanks in advance.
The text quoted from http://www.allkpop.com/2010/05/rainbows-jaekyung-and-after-schools-jooyeon-for-invincible-youth
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" I can't get the function of the underlined with. Would you tell me the propper meaning of that? Thanks in advance.
- " I can't get the function of the underlined with.
- Would you tell me the propper meaning of that?
- Thanks in advance.
- com/2010/05/rainbows-jaekyung-and-after-schools-jooyeon-for-invincible-youth Generally speaking, it means ''because of this circumstance'.
- eg With their goalkeeper injured, France lost the soccer match.
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Hi,
"With f(x)’s Victoria already pencilled in, netizens are now saying that Rainbow’s Jaekyung and After School’s Jooyeon will be joining her and form the new G7 with existing members, Narsha, Hyomin, Hara and Sunhwa."
I can't get the function of the underlined with. Woul
"With f(x)’s Victoria already pencilled in, netizens are now saying that Rainbow’s Jaekyung and After School’s Jooyeon will be joining her and form the new G7 with existing members, Narsha, Hyomin, Hara and Sunhwa."
I can't get the function of the underlined with. Woul
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In this sense, "With A, B" means that A is in place when B happens.
So, "netizens are saying..." follows (in time) the pencilling in of Victoria.
So, "netizens are saying..." follows (in time) the pencilling in of Victoria.
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I agree with Clive. In this situation, "with" indicates a causal relationship.
But one must read on in order to reach this conclusion. That is, with the right context, it might only have the temporal meaning.
Edit. Woops, I take it back!
Darned Journaleeze! They just run stuff together! I don't find any causal connection. Sorry.
But one must read on in order to reach this conclusion. That is, with the right context, it might only have the temporal meaning.
Edit. Woops, I take it back!
Darned Journaleeze! They just run stuff together! I don't find any causal connection. Sorry.
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AvangiI agree with Clive. In this situation, "with" indicates a causal relationship.To me the causal relationship in this sentence is weak, and no more than would be implied by stating that one thing followed the other.
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I believe 'with' almost always carries a temporal relationship, and only sometimes a causal one:
With the crowd on their feet, Ronaldo scores his second goal for Real Madrid. (Temporal)
With inflation soaring sky-high, people are reluctant to donate. (Causal & temporal)
With nobody around to witness, I broke into the jewlery store. (Causal & slight
With the crowd on their feet, Ronaldo scores his second goal for Real Madrid. (Temporal)
With inflation soaring sky-high, people are reluctant to donate. (Causal & temporal)
With nobody around to witness, I broke into the jewlery store. (Causal & slight
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