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Hi,I have got a few questions about 'to turn green WITH envy', 'to grow yellowed WITH age' and similar constructs.(1) TO GROW/TURN YELLOWED WITH AGEI assume this is perfect English?1.1. To a native speaker's eye, is there any difference between using GROW ... and TURN ... in this and similar expressions?1.2. Is there the verb (sic!) TO YELLOW in English? What part of speech is 'yellowed' (in the expression 'to turn yellowed with age')?(2) Is it correct to say, "The pages turned yellowed IN/OVER time'? If it is, what is the different betweento turn yellowed with ageandto turn yellowed in/over time?(3) Can I say "the sheets turned grayish/yellow/black with age'?(not 'yellowed', 'blackened', etc.)mus-te

Mister Micawber · Accepted Answer

MUSCOVITE1) TO GROW/TURN YELLOWED WITH AGEI assume this is perfect English?

I don't think so; I use 'yellow', not 'yellowed'.

MUSCOVITE1.1. To a native speaker's eye, is there any difference between using GROW ... and TURN ... in this and similar expressions?

Not so far.

MUSCOVITE.2. Is there the verb (sic!) TO YELLOW in English?

Yes: The pages yellowed with age.

MUSCOVITEWhat part of speech is 'yellowed' (in the expression 'to turn yellowed with age')?

None: I think it's wrong.

MUSCOVITE(2) Is it correct to say, "The pages turned yellowed IN/OVER time'? If it is, what is the different betweento turn yellowed with ageandto turn yellowed in/over time?

I see none.

MUSCOVITE(3) Can I say "the sheets turned grayish/yellow/black with age'?(not 'yellowed', 'blackened', etc.)

Yes, if that is the obvious fact, rather than their yellowing, which is what usually happens.

MUSCOVITE · Answer

Mister MicawberI don't think so; I use 'yellow', not 'yellowed'.

Thank you for pointing this out Mister Micawber.
On the other hand, searching COCA and GlowBe for yellow with age and yellowed with age resulted in somewhat unexpected hit lists...

COCA:
"yellow with age" - 16 hits
"yellowed with age" - 20

GLOWBE

"yellow with age" - 20 hits
"yellowed with age" - 14

CalifJim · Answer

COCA:
"yellow with age" - 16 hits
"yellowed with age" - 20

GLOWBE

"yellow with age" - 20 hits
"yellowed with age" - 14

Yes, but there is no search on these with "turn" or other words that might precede, so aren't you getting turn yellow with age, was yellow with age, and to yellow with age in the same count, and getting it yellowed with age, turn yellowed with age, and was yellowed with age in the same count?

If the count is only of the verb 'to yellow', then all you have is the plain form and past tense instances of the same verb.

CJ

MUSCOVITE · Answer

CalifJimYes, but there is no search on these with "turn" or other words that might precede, so aren't you getting

Thank you CalifJim!
You are right of course -- my search criteria was completely wrong

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As soon as I replaced "yellowed with age" with "turn/grow/be yellowed", the hit lists nearly completely dried up.

(1) http://corpus2.byu.edu/glowbe/x4.asp?t=301401&ID=313224004 A B Croll for his second novel, The Dharma Bums. The Road scroll now is yellowed with age the way foolscap or newsprint-type teletype paper degrades quickly due to acid content

(2) http://corpus2.byu.edu/glowbe/x4.asp?t=3546167&ID=2127502406 A B Cpresents from family friends. I picked out an old novel. Its pages were yellowed with age and moisture, its paperback cover crisscrossed with the battle scars of being

(3) http://corpus2.byu.edu/glowbe/x4.asp?t=1318394&ID=1289804995 A B Cin her drawers her beautiful dress, down to the satin shoes whose soles were yellowed with the slippery wax of the dancing floor. Her heart was like these.

I guess the second and third examples should be omitted because the English spoken in MY and TZ can differ from AE in some ways? And the first example cannot be considered "representative"/"convincing" either....perhaps it was just a typo?

Many thanks to you and MM for your help with this piece of grammar

CalifJim · Answer

MUSCOVITEthe hit lists nearly completely dried up

Oh, well. Don't worry about it. It happens to the best of us.

As for "were yellowed" (with age), I don't find it wrong; it's just that I don't find it at all. What I mean is that among us speakers of AmE, it seems to be exclusively "were yellow" (with age).

CJ

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