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SunFlowerSeed Posted 19 years ago
Grammar

Translation of a Turkish lyric..

0 I am trying to translate a very complicated lyric into english.02br
00I am not sure of using of be(am) or become.02br
00Actually the word is be, but it looked odd to say If I am water.02br
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00The lyric also looks silly too, but it looks meaningfull in the original language and has a good melody.02br
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00The bold-italic parts are the main problem. But I am open to any suggestion and correction.01b02br
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00Benimle oynar mısın? Would you play with me? 02b02br
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00Su olsam ateş olsam If I 01b01i00be/become02i02b00 water, If I be/become fire02br
00Göklerdeki güneş olsam If I be/become the sun in the sky,02br
00Konuşmasam taş olsam If I don't speak and be/become a stone02br
00Yine de 00oynar mısın00 benimle? Would you play with me 01i01b00in this case?02b02i02br
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00Susulsam kusur olsam If I don't speak and be/become a failure (To be a failure/fault because of not speaking, not a mute person)02br
00Ağızdaki küfür olsam If I be/become the bad word/swear in the mouth02br
00Doğuştan esir olsam If I am a slave-born (to be a slave because of his birth, born as a slave)02br
00Yine de 00oynar mısın00 benimle? Would you play with me in this case?02br
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00Sayılmasam kaç olsam 01b01i00If I can't be countable and be how much.02i00 02b02br
00Topraktaki güç olsam If I be/become the power in the earth02br
00Aptal gibi suç olsam If I be/become guilty of being silly02br
00Yine de 00oynar mısın00 benimle? Would you play with me in this case?02br
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00Benimle 00oynar mısın00? Would you play with me?02br
00Benimle 00oynar mısın00? Would you play with me?0-
  

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0 01i 00Should I become water02br 00 or02br 00 If I were water02i 02br 00 [no feeling of becoming here though, just the state]02br 02br 01i 00Would you play with me then? 01i 00 02i 02br 00 There's no such thing as 01i 00being countable02i 00 about beings in English. 0-

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  • 0 01i 00Should I become water02br 00 or02br 00 If I were water02i 02br 00 [no feeling of becoming here though, just the state]02br 02br 01i 00Would you play with me then?
  • 01i 00 02i 02br 00 There's no such thing as 01i 00being countable02i 00 about beings in English.
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0 01i00Should I become water02br
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00 If I were water02i02br
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01i00Would you play with me then? 02br
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02i00 01i00If I can't be countable and be how much.02br
02i00it's not clear
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0 Thanks for replying.02br
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00>If I were water, if I were fire.< --- Actually they are states.02br
00>Would you play with me then?< --- Sometimes I just can't find the right word. 05000 Can I add a 'too' after 'then', or is it better to use 'also' before 'play'.02br
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01i00If I can't be countable and be how mu
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10Sayılmasam10 kaç olsam 11b11i10If I can't be countable and be how much.12i10 12b12br
10Topraktaki güç olsam If I be/become the p
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0 I just copied the lyric from a Turkish songs' lyrics page.02br
00I know the song well. One of my favorites.02br
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00The word is sayılmasam, not sayılmazsam.02br
00I don't want to get involved in a Turkish grammer question, because this is a English grammar forum.02br
00But in case you are interested in, meaning of sayılmasam and sayılm
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0 Still not clear what meaning of 01b00count02b00 you have in mind. 02br
01i00Count02i00 means e.g. 01i00to assign numbers02i00. 0-
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0 The easiest explanation of the whole lyric is 02br
00 ''Even if I am/were water,fire,stone or even something unthinkable like this KAÇ/How many, would you still love me.''02br
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00The verb is to count. Like counting people, books, pieces, scores, numbers.02br
00It has another meaning as I stated in the previous post but here it is to count by num
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0 Well, perhaps this meaning:02br
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01i00 If I were/was an unimportant fellow, If I were/was a guy with no importance, 01font00If I were/was a nobody,02font02i02br
00 (if my presence would not count). 0-
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0 Thanks everybody for sparing their times to check this topic.02br
00Please check it one last time if there is something wrong or odd looking.02br
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00If I were 01font00the02font00 water, If I were 01font00the02font00 fire02br
00If I were 01font
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0From Turkishclass dot com:02br
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00if i were not to be respected, how much can i be? 0-
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0 This topic is going out of its real target i think but this one is just a reply to Philip.02br
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00That verb's meanings are 1. To count (question: how much/many) / (with -ıl-) to be counted02br
00 2. To say numbers one after another (usage: please count 1 to 10 in English)02br
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