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Taka Posted 14 years ago
Grammar

Train

Do these two sound equally natural and have the same meaning?

He was trained as a singer.
He trained as a singer
  

Top answer

They are both natural, but the first required a teacher and the second one did not.

  • They are both natural, but the first required a teacher and the second one did not.
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11 Answers
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They are both natural, but the first required a teacher and the second one did not.
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So the intransitive 'train' have a strong sense of self-taught, compared to the transitive 'train'?
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Yes. Of course, naming the sport/skill would probably influence the sensation.
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Good.

Then, do you think it's safe to say that the intransitive 'train' is almost, if not exactly, the same as 'train oneself'?
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That seems reasonable, I suppose.
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They mean basically the same thing, and might be used (crudely) interchangeably, but there is the subtlest shade in nuance and they would typically be used in different contexts:

"He was trained as a singer, but decided to become a pianist." You could also say, grammatically (but crudely): "He trained as a singer but decided to become a pianist.", but this particular pattern favors "was
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Mister MicawberThat seems reasonable, I suppose.
Good. Thank you, MM.

MM, anon below you says:

Anonymous The "under ___" pattern favors "trained as a singer."
Would you disagree?
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Yes, of course. I usually disagree with him. He is usually frighteningly prescriptive.
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Oh, is the anon the same person you've seen somewhere else before?
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Yes. As a moderator, I can read his IP address.

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