Taka Posted 14 years ago
Grammar
Train
Do these two sound equally natural and have the same meaning?
He was trained as a singer.
He trained as a singer
He was trained as a singer.
He trained as a singer
Top answer
They are both natural, but the first required a teacher and the second one did not.
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They are both natural, but the first required a teacher and the second one did not.
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So the intransitive 'train' have a strong sense of self-taught, compared to the transitive 'train'?
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Yes. Of course, naming the sport/skill would probably influence the sensation.
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Good.
Then, do you think it's safe to say that the intransitive 'train' is almost, if not exactly, the same as 'train oneself'?
Then, do you think it's safe to say that the intransitive 'train' is almost, if not exactly, the same as 'train oneself'?
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They mean basically the same thing, and might be used (crudely) interchangeably, but there is the subtlest shade in nuance and they would typically be used in different contexts:
"He was trained as a singer, but decided to become a pianist." You could also say, grammatically (but crudely): "He trained as a singer but decided to become a pianist.", but this particular pattern favors "was
"He was trained as a singer, but decided to become a pianist." You could also say, grammatically (but crudely): "He trained as a singer but decided to become a pianist.", but this particular pattern favors "was
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Mister MicawberThat seems reasonable, I suppose.Good. Thank you, MM.
MM, anon below you says:
Would you disagree?
Anonymous The "under ___" pattern favors "trained as a singer."
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Yes, of course. I usually disagree with him. He is usually frighteningly prescriptive.
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