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To state out s.th./that ...
Dear list members,
Recently I've come across the verb "to state out", but have failed to find it in about 10 respectable dictionaries (including two devoted entirely to phrasal verbs). Googling has suggested that it is predominantly used with "loud" ("Blah blah blah", he stated out loud.), but sometimes without (She stated out the objectives of the campaign.)
Now I'm wondering whether this is just one of those phrasal verbs where the particle adds little to the meaning of the verb. Hmm. Would you agree, or would you venture a definition that deviates from that for "to state s.th./that"?
Can you think of other examples of typical or acceptable usage? Is it at all acceptable in written English, or rather deprecated?
Thanks for any contribution!
Florian v. Savigny
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Recently I've come across the verb "to state out", but have failed to find it in about 10 respectable dictionaries (including two devoted entirely to phrasal verbs). Googling has suggested that it is predominantly used with "loud" ("Blah blah blah", he stated out loud.), but sometimes without (She stated out the objectives of the campaign.)
Now I'm wondering whether this is just one of those phrasal verbs where the particle adds little to the meaning of the verb. Hmm. Would you agree, or would you venture a definition that deviates from that for "to state s.th./that"?
Can you think of other examples of typical or acceptable usage? Is it at all acceptable in written English, or rather deprecated?
Thanks for any contribution!
Florian v. Savigny
(If you are going to reply in private, please be patient, as I only check for mail something like once a week, if that. - Si vous allez répondre personellement, patientez s.v.p., car je ne lis les courriels qu'environ une fois par semaine.)
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[nq:1]Recently I've come across the verb "to state out", but have failed to find it in about 10 respectable dictionaries ... think of other examples of typical or acceptable usage? [/nq] It's "to state" + "out loud".
- [nq:1]Recently I've come across the verb "to state out", but have failed to find it in about 10 respectable dictionaries ...
- think of other examples of typical or acceptable usage?
- [/nq] It's "to state" + "out loud".
- "To state out" (+ direct object) is an error.
- Adrian
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[nq:1]Recently I've come across the verb "to state out", but have failed to find it in about 10 respectable dictionaries ... think of other examples of typical or acceptable usage? Is it at all acceptable in written English, or rather deprecated?[/nq]
It's "to state" + "out loud". "To state out" (+ direct object) is an error.
Adrian
It's "to state" + "out loud". "To state out" (+ direct object) is an error.
Adrian
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[nq:1]Dear list members, Recently I've come across the verb "to state out", but have failed to find it in about ... think of other examples of typical or acceptable usage? Is it at all acceptable in written English, or rather deprecated?[/nq]
I don't recall ever hearing or reading it. It is the sort of thing that could easily occur as a result
of mistaken usage and subprofessional editing,
I don't recall ever hearing or reading it. It is the sort of thing that could easily occur as a result
of mistaken usage and subprofessional editing,
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[nq:2]Dear list members, Recently I've come across the verb "to ... it at all acceptable in written English, or rather deprecated?[/nq]
[nq:1]I don't recall ever hearing or reading it. It is the sort of thing that could easily occur as a ... marking them with wooden stakes driven into the ground. This may be the origin of the mistaken usage you heard.[/nq]
This usage might be somewhat date
[nq:1]I don't recall ever hearing or reading it. It is the sort of thing that could easily occur as a ... marking them with wooden stakes driven into the ground. This may be the origin of the mistaken usage you heard.[/nq]
This usage might be somewhat date
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[nq:1]This usage might be somewhat dated or regional, but 'to state something out loud' is to speak your mind, get ... I can't recall 'state out' being used in any other context. COD10's first definition of state as a verb is:[/nq]
Quite common in US English, too, though never without the "loud". Seems to have been replaced in officialese by "state orally", but common in informal English.
Quite common in US English, too, though never without the "loud". Seems to have been replaced in officialese by "state orally", but common in informal English.
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