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it means something like "to host", doesn't it?is there a verb which would "to be hosted", "to be a guest"?there's no kaangut. it's only yourself.email: zbihniew(at)krasl(dot)czhttp://zbihniew.krasl.cz

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[nq:1]it means something like "to host", doesn't it? is there a verb which would "to be hosted", "to be a guest"?[/nq]
Bequest is a noun. The associated verb
form is bequeathe. Both appear to be old uses.
Host as a verb is an American barbarism of recent
coinage (1970s?) probably by the "hospitality
industry" i.e. hotel businesses.

Don Phillipson
Carlsbad Springs (Ottawa, Canada)

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[nq:2]it means something like "to host", doesn't it? is there a verb which would "to be hosted", "to be a guest"?[/nq]
[nq:1]Bequest is a noun. The associated verb form is bequeathe.[/nq]
bequeath
Adrian

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U¿ytkownik Don Phillipson napisa³:
[nq:2]it means something like "to host", doesn't it? is there a verb which would "to be hosted", "to be a guest"?[/nq]
[nq:1]Bequest is a noun. The associated verb form is bequeathe. Both appear to be old uses.[/nq]
A bequest is something else. AFAIAC it has nothing in common with guests, hosts etc. I mean the meaning like in the sentence "we shall beguest those lucky spenders with all we have" (or is that a German cliche?)
[nq:1]Host as a verb is an American barbarism of recent coinage (1970s?) probably by the "hospitality industry" i.e. hotel businesses.[/nq]
I see.

there's no kaangut. it's only yourself.
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[nq:1]U¿ytkownik Don Phillipson napisa³:[/nq]
[nq:2]Bequest is a noun. The associated verb form is bequeathe. Both appear to be old uses.[/nq]
[nq:1]A bequest is something else. AFAIAC it has nothing in common with guests, hosts etc. I mean the meaning like in the sentence "we shall beguest those lucky spenders with all we have" (or is that a Germancliche?)[/nq]
As far as I can see, we have no such word as "beguest".

But, if we did, it would have the meaning of (from your sample): "We shall provide them with as many guests as they can handle". To provide with guests, or even to provide more guests than they can handle. In a narrower hypothetical sense, "I will be their guest".
If German is the origin and this be a translation, then is there a coordinating "behost"? (Just a joke. In the US we do use "host" as a verb. But once again, the prefix "be-" doesn't suit either the guest or host. And, yes, we do use "guest" as a verb. . .don't know about BrE. Think of our talk shows, with so many "guests". You can imagine one talking to another,"Yes, I guest on as many news and entertainment talk shows as I can. Keeps my face in the minds of the voters.")

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U¿ytkownik Pat Durkin napisa³:
[nq:2]A bequest is something else. AFAIAC it has nothing in ... spenders with all we have" (or is that a German[/nq]
[nq:1]cliche?) As far as I can see, we have no such word as "beguest".[/nq]
what a pity

it sounded so nice

[nq:1]But, if we did, it would have the meaning of (from your sample): "We shall provide them with as many ... will be their guest". If German is the origin and this be a translation, then is there a coordinating "behost"?[/nq]
I've stumbled upon it in a story published on a German site (though the storry being written in English).
[nq:1](Just a joke. In the US we do use "host" as a verb. But once again, the prefix "be-" doesn't suit either the guest or host.[/nq]
I'm probably just giving proof of my ignorance but what does "to behost" mean? (Neither Webster nor Cambridge Dictionary knows it)
[nq:1]And, yes, we do use "guest" as a verb. . .don't know about BrE. Think of our talk shows, with ... on as many news and entertainment talk shows as I can. Keeps my face in the minds of the voters.")[/nq]
That's the verb I asked for in my first post

Can I say that sorrow guests on one's face?

there's no kaangut. it's only yourself.
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[nq:2]it means something like "to host", doesn't it? is there a verb which would "to be hosted", "to be a guest"?[/nq]
[nq:1]Bequest is a noun. The associated verb form is bequeathe. Both appear to be old uses. Host as a verb is an American barbarism of recent coinage (1970s?) probably by the "hospitality industry" i.e. hotel businesses.[/nq]
Naah, it originated in the 15th century (per MWCD10). Hardly of American origin, I'd say. Pick your barbs a bit more carefully, so as not to *** yourself.
"Beguest" is not a word I have ever encountered. "Bequest" was not asked about.

Skitt (in Hayward, California)
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[nq:1]U¿ytkownik Pat Durkin napisa³:[/nq]
As with "beguest", the word "behost" doesn't exist. My example for "beguest" was hypothetical. My question about the coordinating "behost" was an attempt to find what a German word corresponding to "behost" might be.
[nq:2]And, yes, we do use "guest" as a verb. . ... can. Keeps my face in the minds of the voters.")[/nq]
[nq:1]That's the verb I asked for in my first post

Can I say that sorrow guests on one's face?[/nq]
No. Not without a good deal of distortion. Even my use of "guest" was stretching the usage, based on the US usage of "host" as a verb.

These usages would be pretty far from everyday AmE, and you, as a novice, would probably avoid them as long as you have to ask about them. When I create a hypothetical or special example, I am stretching a point. To go further, as in your last example, one might find "guests" as "visits" or "appears", and one sees the poetic possibilities, but beyond that, one would avoid the usage. It would be out of place in either everyday or formal speech and writing, no matter what role the cognates might have in German. (And I don't know the German expression from which this might have been translated.)

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[nq:1]I see.[/nq]
Don's assertion is false. See my other post in this thread.
Skitt (in Hayward, California)
www.geocities.com/opus731/

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U¿ytkownik Pat Durkin napisa³:
[nq:1]talking I[/nq]
[nq:2]That's the verb I asked for in my first post

Can I say that sorrow guests on one's face?[/nq]
[nq:1]No. Not without a good deal of distortion. Even my use of "guest" was stretching the usage, based on the US usage of "host" as a verb.[/nq]
Yet your usage was just like the one in my dictionary.
[nq:1]These usages would be pretty far from everyday AmE, and you, as a novice, would probably avoid them as long ... find "guests" as "visits" or "appears", and one sees the poetic possibilities, but beyond that, one would avoid the usage.[/nq]
Another question:
What can sorrow do on one's face? (Apart from appearing or being)
[nq:1]It would be out of place in either everyday or formal speech and writing, no matter what role the cognates might have in German. (And I don't know the German expression from which this might have been translated.)[/nq]
"Begasten" doesn't exist in German and they must treat the stem as foreign one as there is "gast ieren " (to guest).

there's no kaangut. it's only yourself.
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[nq:1]U¿ytkownik Pat Durkin napisa³:[/nq]
Did a miss a posting from you? I thought you used the word "beguest" in your first post.
[nq:2]No. Not without a good deal of distortion. Even my ... based on the US usage of "host" as a verb.[/nq]
[nq:1]Yet your usage was just like the one in my dictionary.[/nq]
But its usage is rare, and not in the mainstream at all, no matter that it appears in the dictionary.
M-W Online
Main Entry: 2guest
Function: verb
transitive senses : to receive as a guest
intransitive senses : to appear as a guest
(note that the transitive sense of the verbing of 'guest' becomes the same as the verb form of 'host', to receive a guest)
[nq:2]To go further, as in your last example, one might ... the poetic possibilities, but beyond that, onewould avoid the usage.[/nq]
[nq:1]Another question: What can sorrow do on one's face? (Apart from appearing or being)[/nq]
Some people insist that certain frown lines appear that are characteristic of sorrow and worry (verical lines between the eyes, and long horizontals across the forehead). Also, a downturned mouth :-( distorts the normal "laugh wrinkles" that push up the cheeks and narrow the eyes, as well as crows' feet on the outer edges of the eyes that appear when one smiles. I say insist, because some of these lines form from concentrationm and smile lines also appear when one grimaces (as in pain).
[nq:2]It would be out of place in either everyday or ... the German expression from which this might have been translated.)[/nq]
[nq:1]"Begasten" doesn't exist in German and they must treat the stem as foreign one as there is "gast ieren " (to guest).[/nq]
Oh, dear, then the entire discussion becomes esoteric, doesn't it, bouncing back and forth between quite rare usage in US and a word especially created in German to handle the rare US usage?
Main Entry: es.o.ter.ic
Pronunciation: "e-s&-'ter-ik, -'te-rik
Function: adjective
Etymology: Late Latin esotericus, from Greek esOterikos, from esOterO, comparative of eisO, esO within, from eis into; akin to Greek en in more at IN

1 a : designed for or understood by the specially initiated alone b : requiring or exhibiting knowledge that is restricted to a small group ; broadly : difficult to understand
2 a : limited to a small circle b : PRIVATE,CONFIDENTIAL

3 : of special, rare, or unusual interest ==
I repeat: it is best to avoid the usage of "guest" as a verb.

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