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Three questions concerning pronunciation
1) I've heard Gwyneth Paltrow's surname pronounced "pal-trow" by AmEngspeakers, and "p-all-trow" by BritEng speakers. Since she's American, am I to take it that the former is the correct pronunciation? The fact is that I've never heard her saying it.
2) Sylvia Plath, too, was American. Since her surname is pronounced (pl&T)there, how did RP speakers "decided" it had to be (pla:T), not (pl&T)?
3) Do all of you soften the voiced "th" sound ((D), right?) after an "n"?As in "in there", "I've done that before". Is it regarded as anything sloppy? I don't think so, but I'm not sure.
Bye, FB
"Are you sure an embryo parson should have a plane?" "Everyone should have a plane!"
(Cold Comfort Farm, the film)
2) Sylvia Plath, too, was American. Since her surname is pronounced (pl&T)there, how did RP speakers "decided" it had to be (pla:T), not (pl&T)?
3) Do all of you soften the voiced "th" sound ((D), right?) after an "n"?As in "in there", "I've done that before". Is it regarded as anything sloppy? I don't think so, but I'm not sure.
Bye, FB
"Are you sure an embryo parson should have a plane?" "Everyone should have a plane!"
(Cold Comfort Farm, the film)
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[nq:1]1) I've heard Gwyneth Paltrow's surname pronounced "pal-trow" byAmEng speakers, and "p-all-trow" by BritEng speakers. Since she'sAmerican, am I to take it that the former is the correct pronunciation? [/nq] No idea.
- [nq:1]1) I've heard Gwyneth Paltrow's surname pronounced "pal-trow" byAmEng speakers, and "p-all-trow" by BritEng speakers.
- Since she'sAmerican, am I to take it that the former is the correct pronunciation?
- [/nq] No idea.
- [nq:1]2) Sylvia Plath, too, was American.
- [/nq] As far as I know, everybody says (pl&T).
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[nq:1]1) I've heard Gwyneth Paltrow's surname pronounced "pal-trow" byAmEng speakers, and "p-all-trow" by BritEng speakers. Since she'sAmerican, am I to take it that the former is the correct pronunciation? The fact is that I've never heard her saying it.[/nq]
No idea.
[nq:1]2) Sylvia Plath, too, was American. Since her surname is pronounced (pl&T) there, how did RP speakers "decided" it h
No idea.
[nq:1]2) Sylvia Plath, too, was American. Since her surname is pronounced (pl&T) there, how did RP speakers "decided" it h
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[nq:1]1) I've heard Gwyneth Paltrow's surname pronounced "pal-trow" by AmEng speakers, and "p-all-trow" by BritEng speakers. Since she's American, am I to take it that the former is the correct pronunciation?[/nq]
No, since I've heard both pronunciations by Americans. I think the "pal" is a lot more common than the "pall", so perhaps it's correct, but perhaps not.
[nq:1]2) Sylvia Plath, to
No, since I've heard both pronunciations by Americans. I think the "pal" is a lot more common than the "pall", so perhaps it's correct, but perhaps not.
[nq:1]2) Sylvia Plath, to
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I've heard (pla:T) on the radio (BBC, I believe).
Ciao, FB
"Are you sure an embryo parson should have a plane?" "Everyone should have a plane!"
(Cold Comfort Farm, the film)
Ciao, FB
"Are you sure an embryo parson should have a plane?" "Everyone should have a plane!"
(Cold Comfort Farm, the film)
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I've heard it quite often, from BritEng as well as AmEng speakers. Maybe "softened" is not the right word. I've recorded myself saying it:
"I've done that"> ordinary
> softened "th"
http://xoomer.virgilio.it/fb83/th.mp3 (71.5 Kb)
Bye, FB
"Are you sure a
"I've done that"
> ordinary
"I've done that"
> softened "th"http://xoomer.virgilio.it/fb83/th.mp3 (71.5 Kb)
Bye, FB
"Are you sure a
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[nq:2]I don't think I do this, and I have never been aware of any English speaker doing this. It sounds strange to me.[/nq]
[nq:1]I've heard it quite often, from BritEng as well as AmEng speakers. Maybe "softened" is not the right word. I've recorded myself saying it: "I've done that"
[nq:1]I've heard it quite often, from BritEng as well as AmEng speakers. Maybe "softened" is not the right word. I've recorded myself saying it: "I've done that"
> ordinary "I've done that"
> softened "th"00
[nq:1]3) Do all of you soften the voiced "th" sound ((D), right?) after an "n"? As in "in there", "I've done that before". Is it regarded as anything sloppy? I don't think so, but I'm not sure.[/nq]
Talking to myself here, I do find that the "th" sound in "in there" comes out a bit softer somehow than in "is there". The tongue has to make a big movement forward from the s to the th. But for th
Talking to myself here, I do find that the "th" sound in "in there" comes out a bit softer somehow than in "is there". The tongue has to make a big movement forward from the s to the th. But for th
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[nq:1]1) I've heard Gwyneth Paltrow's surname pronounced "pal-trow" by AmEng speakers, and "p-all-trow" by BritEng speakers. Since she's American, am I to take it that the former is the correct pronunciation? The fact is that I've never heard her saying it.[/nq]
Don't remember hearing "palltrow".
[nq:1]2) Sylvia Plath, too, was American. Since her surname is pronounced (pl&T) there, how di
Don't remember hearing "palltrow".
[nq:1]2) Sylvia Plath, too, was American. Since her surname is pronounced (pl&T) there, how di
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[nq:1]1) I've heard Gwyneth Paltrow's surname pronounced "pal-trow" by AmEng speakers, and "p-all-trow" by BritEng speakers. Since she's American, am ... that I've never heard her saying it. I don't know which is correct, but I do know this...[/nq]
However she pronounces her name, is the correct way.
That's the thing with names.
John Wade
However she pronounces her name, is the correct way.
That's the thing with names.
John Wade
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[nq:2]1) I've heard Gwyneth Paltrow's surname pronounced "pal-trow" by AmEng ... to take it that the former is the correct pronunciation?[/nq]
[nq:1]No, since I've heard both pronunciations by Americans. I think the "pal" is a lot more common than the "pall", so perhaps it's correct, but perhaps not.[/nq]
But does it rhyme with "throw" or with "how"?
dg (domain=ccwebster)
[nq:1]No, since I've heard both pronunciations by Americans. I think the "pal" is a lot more common than the "pall", so perhaps it's correct, but perhaps not.[/nq]
But does it rhyme with "throw" or with "how"?
dg (domain=ccwebster)
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[nq:1]I'm in the same speech group (West & midwest US?) that tends to say "winner" for "winter," "counny" for "county" and so on that's seems a bit like a similar question, in that it concerns the effect an n has on the following consonant.[/nq]
Yes, this is a well-known feature of SparkE and other Western United States Speaker (WUSS) dialects.
Unknown in NYCE, except for the odd word here
Yes, this is a well-known feature of SparkE and other Western United States Speaker (WUSS) dialects.
Unknown in NYCE, except for the odd word here
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