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Thoughts on "Iron Man" and "Hulk"

I have now seen "Iron Man" and "The Incredible Hulk," both of them in a cinema on wide screen with digital sound. Meh.
On balance I slightly prefer "Hulk," but maybe that's because I prefer Edward Norton to Robert Downey Jr. On the other hand, Gwyneth Paltrow (IM) is streets more attractive than Liv Tyler (H). Of course Pepper Potts (IM) is a more ridiculous name than Betty Ross (H). William Hurt's Gen. Ross (H) was a more believable renegade higher-up than Geoff Bridges' Obadiah Stane (IM), which is also a really stupid name. Hmm. It's close.

How could a weedy little runt like Tim Roth be considered some sort of uber fighting man? Only in Hollywood. On the other hand, Lou Ferrigno still looks dammned good. (Note to self: Must think about pumping iron more often.)
CGI still cannot do mass and momentum. Hulk was bouncing around New York like a Harryhausen model. So were the thrown cars. (Hint: Michael Bay throws them for real. It shows.) And I didn't feel the blows in the monster fights in either IM or H.
If your bullets are bouncing off the Hulk, that's the time to load up with depleted uranium rounds. If there are any left over from invading Iraq. (By the way, have you ever considered that what Iran is really after is DU? They plan to throw the fissionable uranium away, since the world won't let them use it, and use the depleted stuff to make armor-piercing rounds to greet Uncle Sam when he comes calling?)
Those favelas in Rio have got to be one of the world's great locations. The helicopter shots of the buildings sweeping up and over each other from the foothills to the ridge lines were spectacular.
It seems a Hulk/Iron Man smackdown is written in the tea leaves. Be still my beating heart. Not. Why else have Robert Downey appear in his ridiculous Tony Stark facial hair (Iron Man) (a follow-up to his pathetic reporter's facial hair (Zodiac), and his completely over the top tricho-something facial hair in "Fur: An Imaginary Portrait of Diane Arbus") What is it with Downey and facial hair? Stop it already! I'm sure Gillette will pay you something to shave it off and keep it off. And didn't Tony Stark renounce violence? Sellout!
Final thought: Why did America invent the superhero? I think it's because Europe has already got the World's Smartest Detective (Sherlock Holmes), and the World's Most Evil Guy (Hitler), and all that was left was a superhero with made-up powers. In other words, the superhero is the result of American penis envy. (See also chrome, fins, the V8, and the daisy-cutter bomb.)

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[nq:1]Final thought: Why did America invent the superhero? I think it's because Europe has already got the World's Smartest Detective ... words, the superhero is the result of American ***** envy.

  • [nq:1]Final thought: Why did America invent the superhero?
  • I think it's because Europe has already got the World's Smartest Detective ...
  • words, the superhero is the result of American ***** envy.
  • )[/nq] America didn't invent it; blame it on a couple of Jews from Cleveland.
  • org/wiki/Doctor Occult Superheroes are in some ways, thinking golems.
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[nq:1]Final thought: Why did America invent the superhero? I think it's because Europe has already got the World's Smartest Detective ... words, the superhero is the result of American ***** envy. (See also chrome, fins, the V8, and the daisy-cutter bomb.)[/nq]
America didn't invent it; blame it on a couple of Jews from Cleveland.

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[nq:1]Final thought: Why did America invent the superhero? I think it's because Europe has already got the World's Smartest Detective (Sherlock Holmes), and the World's Most Evil Guy (Hitler), and all that was left was a superhero with made-up powers.[/nq]
Did America invent the superhero?
Seems to me that Nietsche came up with the idea of the Übermensch aka superman in 1883, Man and Super
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[nq:1]America didn't invent it; blame it on a couple of Jews from Cleveland. Occult[/nq]
A couple of Jews *in* Cleveland. One of them (Shuster) was from Canada.

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Subject: Thoughts on "Iron Man" and "Hulk"
[nq:1]It seems a Hulk/Iron Man smackdown is written in the tea leaves. Be still my beating heart. Not. Why else have Robert Downey appear in his ridiculous Tony Stark facial hair[/nq]
It's because they're setting the groundwork for
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[nq:1]America didn't invent it; blame it on a couple of Jews from Cleveland. Occult[/nq]
Is it the fact that they are Jews or from Cleveland that you think disqualifies them from being Americans?
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[nq:2]America didn't invent it; blame it on a couple of Jews from Cleveland. Occult[/nq]
[nq:1]Is it the fact that they are Jews or from Cleveland that you think disqualifies them from being Americans?[/nq]
The word was "America".
Seek some serious help, boy.
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[nq:1]I have now seen "Iron Man" and "The Incredible Hulk," both of them in a cinema on wide screen with digital sound. Meh.[/nq]
I haven't watched HULK (will wait for the extended Ed Norton's cut on DVD), but I greatly enjoyed IRON MAN. It made me wonder though, how much a strong script really contributes to a superhero movie. Seems like the really important thing to get right is the tone.
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[nq:2]I have now seen "Iron Man" and "The Incredible Hulk," both of them in a cinema on wide screen with digital sound. Meh.[/nq]
[nq:1]I haven't watched HULK (will wait for the extended Ed Norton's cut on DVD), but I greatly enjoyed IRON MAN. ... the really important thing to get right is the tone. Because IRON MAN's plot was no great shakes at all.[/nq]
Except for the excreble dialog in
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[nq:1]We see his vulnerability, his main flaw/main strength in about ten seconds. That *** doesn't just happen while you cook eggs.[/nq]
You just reminded me about an Arnie film, where Schwartzenegger is introduced as putting leftover pizza and raw eggs in a blender. I said to my friend, "I know he might be getting a little too old to do all his own stunts, but he can't chew solids now?"
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[nq:1]We see his vulnerability, his main flaw/main strength in about ten seconds. That *** doesn't just happen while you cook eggs.[/nq]
What flaw? What vulnerability?
He's the smartest guy in the world. He fixes old cars. He has an unlimited source of power. He can give himself super powers by putting on a mechanical suit. He inherited an armaments empire a

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