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Paultx Posted 13 years ago
Grammar
They will have seen?
I just found this on my Facebook wall from Paul McCartney's Facebook page:
"Recent visitors to PaulMcCartney.com will have seen they are working on improving Paul’s website. They are now looking for fan feedback and ideas to help determine what features fans want adding or improving."
It's the very first time I see this "will have seen" thing – and I don't get it!
Would anyone please help me understand that? TIA.
"Recent visitors to PaulMcCartney.com will have seen they are working on improving Paul’s website. They are now looking for fan feedback and ideas to help determine what features fans want adding or improving."
It's the very first time I see this "will have seen" thing – and I don't get it!
Would anyone please help me understand that? TIA.
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It's the future perfect tense. ) Before I go to sleep tonight, I will have been awake for 30 hours. I don't think it's being used correctly in your example.
- It's the future perfect tense.
- ) Before I go to sleep tonight, I will have been awake for 30 hours.
- I don't think it's being used correctly in your example.
- I would write either: "Recent visitors have seen" or "Visitors will see".
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It's the future perfect tense. It is used to refer to the past in the future (to put events in the order they happen.)
Before I go to sleep tonight, I will have been awake for 30 hours.
I don't think it's being used correctly in your example. I would write either: "Recent visitors have seen" or "Visitors will see".
Before I go to sleep tonight, I will have been awake for 30 hours.
I don't think it's being used correctly in your example. I would write either: "Recent visitors have seen" or "Visitors will see".
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PaultxIt's the very first time I see this "will have seen" thing – and I don't get it!Would anyone please help me understand that?Easy. This is the "will of probability".
Recent visitors to PaulMcCartney.com [will have seen / have probably seen / have most likely already seen] ...
Similarly,
Having been on campus for seve
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VorparIt's the future perfect tense. It is used to refer to the past in the future (to put events in the order they happen.)Before I go to sleep tonight, I will have been awake for 30 hours.In your example, 'will have seen' is the so-called future perfect tense.
In the (correct) original, it is not. CJ has explained what it is.
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VorparI don't think it's being used correctly in your example.It seems perfectly correct to me.
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CalifJimThis is the "will of probability".I don't doubt that this is the formula, but I don't understand why it can't express certainty. People can simply be wrong.
If I say, "You will notice a waterfall on your left," I can intend to say that there's absolutely no doubt that you will notice it.
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Avangi I don't doubt that this is the formula, but I don't understand why it can't express certainty. People can simply be wrong.If I say, "You will notice a waterfall on your left," I can intend to say that there's absolutely no doubt that you will notice it.You are right. several of the modals express degrees of probability (in the mind of the speaker), inc
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AvangiI don't understand why it can't express certainty.Nobody said it couldn't. Just because "bank" can express the land just beside a river does not mean it cannot also express a place where you keep your money!
Likewise, just because "will" can express probability doesn't mean it can't express certainty.
QED
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Thanks, CJ.
My problem was that the expression "It's the will of probability" seemed unforgiving. It would "probably" be clearly ambiguous among the linguistics community.
My problem was that the expression "It's the will of probability" seemed unforgiving. It would "probably" be clearly ambiguous among the linguistics community.
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It's the will of the people that you should!
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