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Eff Posted 17 years ago
Grammar

These are only details

Can I use "these are" like this? Is this paragraph correct?

I summarized important facts about travelling over Scotland so that prospective tourists were not taken aback by different wall sockets or by restrictions concerning smoking in public places. These are only details but such a particularity can cause considerable inconvenience.

Thanks for your help.
  

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'These are' is fine, Eff, but your paragraph suffers from a few infelicities. I suggest: I summarized some important points about travelling in Scotland so that prospective tourists are not taken aback by different wall sockets or by restrictions on smoking in public places. These are just details , but such small issues can cause considerable inconvenience.

  • 'These are' is fine, Eff, but your paragraph suffers from a few infelicities.
  • I suggest: I summarized some important points about travelling in Scotland so that prospective tourists are not taken aback by different wall sockets or by restrictions on smoking in public places.
  • These are just details , but such small issues can cause considerable inconvenience.
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'These are' is fine, Eff, but your paragraph suffers from a few infelicities. I suggest:

I summarized some important points about travelling in Scotland so that prospective tourists are not taken aback by different wall sockets or by restrictions on smoking in public places. These are just details, but such small issues can c
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Thank you, Mister Micawber.

Just a question: Why do we use ARE after SO THAT? I summarized some important points about travelling in Scotland so that prospective tourists are not taken aback by different wall sockets.

I was quite surprised by the comma before BUT. These are just details, but such small issues can cause considerable inconvenience.
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I changed were to are because I presumed that your travel summary is still available to help tourists now.

I haven't noticed that Czechs use too many commas (though I know that some students do), but a comma before a coordinating conjunction (and, or, but) is de rigueur in formal writing.
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Hi Eff,
commas before BUT are very common in English, and there's nothing wrong about that. In English, you generally use a comma when a pause in speech would be required, or would make your text flow more smoothly. It's very common and natural to make a little pause before introducing a contrasting sentence, so you sure can put commas before BUT's.
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Thank you for your replies, but now I´m a bit confused as for using the present tense or the future tense in this sentence:

I summarized some important points about travelling in Scotland so that prospective tourists are not taken aback by different wall sockets.
I summarized some important points about traveling in Scotland so that prospective tourists
won´t be
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Yes, you can use future in a dependent clause-- it is simply that native speakers often use simple present for future in that structure.

Yes, that Purdue University grammar site is a good one, and I often use it. (I hope it doesn't challenge anything I said above!)
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