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There be dragons

Two or three weeks ago I read in The Economist an article whose title was "There be Dragons". The article dealt with the so-called Asian tigers (Asian countries with a roaring growth rate). I still can't understand where the title comes from. There must be a reference to something but I can't find what. Can anybody help ? Thanks.
  

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[nq:1]Two or three weeks ago I read in The Economist an article whose title was "There be Dragons". The ... title comes from.

  • [nq:1]Two or three weeks ago I read in The Economist an article whose title was "There be Dragons".
  • The ...
  • title comes from.
  • There must be a reference to something but I can't find what.
  • [/nq] It should be "Here be Dragons" In medieval times they drew maps which sometimes bore a slight reality to reality, but large parts were unknown or unexplored.
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[nq:1]Two or three weeks ago I read in The Economist an article whose title was "There be Dragons". The ... title comes from. There must be a reference to something but I can't find what. Can anybody help ?[/nq]
It should be "Here be Dragons" In medieval times they drew maps which sometimes bore a slight reality to reality, but large parts were unknown or unexplored.

At about the sam
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"Dave Fawthrop" (Email Removed) ha scritto nel messaggio news:(Email Removed)...
[nq:1]In the unexplored parts of these maps they were reputed to write "Here be dragons" I have seen copies of several of these maps, but never seen "Here be dragons" myself. In the unexplored seas they drew sea monsters ?whales?[/nq]
Why "be"?

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[nq:1]"Dave Fawthrop" (Email Removed) ha scritto nel messaggio news:(Email Removed)...[/nq]
[nq:2]In the unexplored parts of these maps they were reputed ... In the unexplored seas they drew sea monsters ?whales?[/nq]
[nq:1]Why "be"? Probably and old-fashioned subjunctive - an obsolete usage.[/nq]
Regards, Einde O'Callaghan
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[nq:2]"Dave Fawthrop" (Email Removed) ha scritto nel messaggio news:(Email ... seas they drew sea monsters > ?whales? Why "be"?[/nq]
Medieval English, or cod Medieval English. I have heard it that way many times.

Dave F
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In article (Email Removed), Dave Fawthrop (Email Removed) writes
[nq:2]news:(Email Removed)...[/nq]
[nq:1]Medieval English, or cod Medieval English. I have heard it that way many times. Perhaps the use of a dialect ... west country as a survival of these forms from before the introduction of the English Bible in the 16th century.[/nq]
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[nq:1]In article (Email Removed), Dave Fawthrop (Email Removed) writes[/nq]
[nq:2] Medieval English, or cod Medieval English. I have heard it that way many times.[/nq]
[nq:1]Perhaps the use of a dialect form associated with the uneducated, who might honestly believe in such things, or the ... west country as a survival of these forms from before the introduction of the English Bible in th
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[nq:1] >> >> >> "Dave Fawthrop" (Email Removed) ha scritto nel messaggio >> news:(Email Removed)... >> ... before the >introduction of the English Bible in the 16th century. Did anybody actually use English on mediaeval maps?[/nq]
Mostly latin: Ubi sunt "Hic sunt dracones"? See:
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[nq:1]Mostly latin: Ubi sunt "Hic sunt dracones"? See: http://www.maphist.nl/extra/herebedragons.html[/nq]
I wonder if the expression, especially the "be", has caught on because it sounds like stereotypical pirate talk to suit tall tales - Avast, me hearties, here be dragons, Jim lad.

I assum
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In article (Email Removed), Phil C. (Email Removed) writes:
[nq:1]I assume, OTTOMH, that pirates tend to be given outrageous Mummerset accents because of Treasure Island, especially post Robert Newton. A quick Google suggests that Blackbeard's origins are uncertain, whereas Captain Kidd was Scottish, Henry Morgan Welsh and Anne Bonny Irish.[/nq]
Going back a little further, ISTR that Drak
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"Einde O'Callaghan" (Email Removed) ha scritto nel messaggio news:boa1h7$1bpsdh$(Email Removed)...
[nq:2]Why "be"?[/nq]
[nq:1]Probably and old-fashioned subjunctive - an obsolete usage.[/nq]
A sort of tentative form, I suppose.

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