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Usenet Posted 18 years ago
English in UK

"them" vs. "these/those"

Hi everybody!
I am new here, and I probably ask a question which has already been answered in this newsgroup. Sorry for that.
My question is: could someone give me some references/links where to find more information about the use of "them" for "these/those" (is it something specifically used in the USA?) and especially the origin of it? I am aware that it belongs to the nonstandard speech, though.

Many thanks in advance.
Gourbi
  

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[nq:1]Hi everybody! I am new here, and I probably ask a question which has already been answered in this newsgroup. the origin of it?

  • [nq:1]Hi everybody!
  • I am new here, and I probably ask a question which has already been answered in this newsgroup.
  • the origin of it?
  • I am aware that it belongs to the nonstandard speech, though.
  • Many thanks in advance.
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[nq:1]Hi everybody! I am new here, and I probably ask a question which has already been answered in this newsgroup. ... the origin of it? I am aware that it belongs to the nonstandard speech, though. Many thanks in advance. Gourbi[/nq]
Hi Gourbi!
I was hoping someone else will answer your question in a more authentic way. Since there doesn't seem to have been a response let me risk putting
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Hi Paul!
Thank you for taking the risk of an answer.
The example you mentioned is exactly the kind I had in mind. I'd like to get more information about the origin of this usage, similar to the usage of "ain't" ().

I wouldn't use the word "them" instead of "these/those" myself, unless I'd like to make a joke. But as I am not a native speaker, it probably wouldn't work, anyway.
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[nq:1]Hi Paul! Thank you for taking the risk of an answer. The example you mentioned is exactly the kind I ... unless I'd like to make a joke. But as I am not a native speaker, it probably wouldn't work, anyway.[/nq]
My take on it would be that as an adjective, "them" is poor grammar and "these/those" should be used.
"Them" is quite properly used as a pronoun in the objective case, althoug

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