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The word 'preestablished'
Hello,
I was wondering how come the word preestablished
does not appear in my m-w.com or collins dictionary. I thought it would be a common word. Also, is it
spelled with a hyphen in the UK and without
in the USA? How should I spell it and why
is it not listed in dictionaries?
Thanks,
John Goche
I was wondering how come the word preestablished
does not appear in my m-w.com or collins dictionary. I thought it would be a common word. Also, is it
spelled with a hyphen in the UK and without
in the USA? How should I spell it and why
is it not listed in dictionaries?
Thanks,
John Goche
Top answer
com or collins dictionary. I thought ... the UK and without in the USA?
- com or collins dictionary.
- I thought ...
- the UK and without in the USA?
- [/nq] It's in the OED hyphenated, with examples from 1643 to 2000, and with a "special use" definition for "pre-established harmony" (Leibniz's philosophy).
- It's presumably left out of Collins and M-W on the grounds that "pre" is a productive prefix that can form an almost endless number of words.
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[nq:1]Hello, I was wondering how come the word preestablished does not appear in my m-w.com or collins dictionary. I thought ... the UK and without in the USA? How should I spell it and why is it not listed in dictionaries?[/nq]
It's in the OED hyphenated, with examples from 1643 to 2000, and with a "special use" definition for "pre-established harmony" (Leibniz's philosophy).
It's presuma
It's in the OED hyphenated, with examples from 1643 to 2000, and with a "special use" definition for "pre-established harmony" (Leibniz's philosophy).
It's presuma
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[nq:1]Hello, I was wondering how come the word preestablished does not appear in my m-w.com or collins dictionary. I thought ... the UK and without in the USA? How should I spell it and why is it not listed in dictionaries?[/nq]
It is defined in the OED. It has a hyphen. The words "pre-establish" and "pre-establishment" are also in the OED.
A word that is constructed by putting a standard
It is defined in the OED. It has a hyphen. The words "pre-establish" and "pre-establishment" are also in the OED.
A word that is constructed by putting a standard
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[nq:1]Hello, I was wondering how come the word preestablished does not appear in my m-w.com or collins dictionary. I thought ... the UK and without in the USA? How should I spell it and why is it not listed in dictionaries?[/nq]
Before believing that a word is "not listed in dictionaries" you need to check the better class of dictionary. As others have pointed out, OED has 'pre-established' (a
Before believing that a word is "not listed in dictionaries" you need to check the better class of dictionary. As others have pointed out, OED has 'pre-established' (a
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[nq:2]Hello, I was wondering how come the word preestablished does ... spell it and why is it not listed in dictionaries?[/nq]
[nq:1]It is defined in the OED. It has a hyphen. The words "pre-establish" and "pre-establishment" are also in the OED.[/nq]
The hyphen is used just because it's easier to read that way, right?
[nq:1]A word that is constructed by putting a standard prefix on an
[nq:1]It is defined in the OED. It has a hyphen. The words "pre-establish" and "pre-establishment" are also in the OED.[/nq]
The hyphen is used just because it's easier to read that way, right?
[nq:1]A word that is constructed by putting a standard prefix on an
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[nq:2]It is defined in the OED. It has a hyphen. The words "pre-establish" and "pre-establishment" are also in the OED.[/nq]
[nq:1]The hyphen is used just because it's easier to read that way, right?[/nq]
I think so.
[nq:2]A word that is constructed by putting a standard prefix on another word will not get into every dictionary because the meaning will be obvious.[/nq]
Peter Duncan
[nq:1]The hyphen is used just because it's easier to read that way, right?[/nq]
I think so.
[nq:2]A word that is constructed by putting a standard prefix on another word will not get into every dictionary because the meaning will be obvious.[/nq]
Peter Duncan
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[nq:2]The hyphen is used just because it's easier to read that way, right?[/nq]
[nq:1]I think so.[/nq]
Only yesterday, I needed to use the word for someone who takes a 'pee'. I could not decide how to spell it. Is it "peeer" or "pee-er"? Neither looks right.
Ian
[nq:1]I think so.[/nq]
Only yesterday, I needed to use the word for someone who takes a 'pee'. I could not decide how to spell it. Is it "peeer" or "pee-er"? Neither looks right.
Ian
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[nq:1]Only yesterday, I needed to use the word for someone who takes a 'pee'. I could not decide how to spell it. Is it "peeer" or "pee-er"? Neither looks right.[/nq]
Do as The New Yorker does: peeër. (For latecomers, that's a dieresis over the third "e", not an umlaut.)
Works better on "prëestablished."
Bob Liëblich
Die, Eresis!
Do as The New Yorker does: peeër. (For latecomers, that's a dieresis over the third "e", not an umlaut.)
Works better on "prëestablished."
Bob Liëblich
Die, Eresis!
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[nq:2]Only yesterday, I needed to use the word for someone ... spell it. Is it "peeer" or "pee-er"? Neither looks right.[/nq]
[nq:1]Do as The New Yorker does: peeër. (For latecomers, that's a dieresis over the third "e", not an umlaut.) Works better on "prëestablished."[/nq]
Works even better if you put the dieresis over the second "e" rather than the first.
Bob Lieblich
Who h
[nq:1]Do as The New Yorker does: peeër. (For latecomers, that's a dieresis over the third "e", not an umlaut.) Works better on "prëestablished."[/nq]
Works even better if you put the dieresis over the second "e" rather than the first.
Bob Lieblich
Who h
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[nq:2] Do as The New Yorker does: peeër.[/nq]
Or follow the precedent of the word for one who sees: "seer," hence "peer."
Also note that a shorter Oxford has both "seer" and the alternative "see-er" for one who sees.
Using the latter precedent, I prefer "pee-er" for one who pees. I think more people will immediately get the meaning of that than will be familiar with the use of a dieres
Or follow the precedent of the word for one who sees: "seer," hence "peer."
Also note that a shorter Oxford has both "seer" and the alternative "see-er" for one who sees.
Using the latter precedent, I prefer "pee-er" for one who pees. I think more people will immediately get the meaning of that than will be familiar with the use of a dieres
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[nq:2]I think so.[/nq]
[nq:1]Only yesterday, I needed to use the word for someone who takes a 'pee'. I could not decide how to spell it. Is it "peeer" or "pee-er"? Neither looks right.[/nq]
Peeist?
Bill in Kentucky
Reverse parts of the user name and ISP name for my e-address
[nq:1]Only yesterday, I needed to use the word for someone who takes a 'pee'. I could not decide how to spell it. Is it "peeer" or "pee-er"? Neither looks right.[/nq]
Peeist?
Bill in Kentucky
Reverse parts of the user name and ISP name for my e-address
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