The usage of that in ',That~', a clause

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Look at the below sentence.The Minister of State, Cabinet Office (Lord Falconer of Thoroton) rose to move, That this House takes note of the planning, management and operation of the Millennium Dome, and of its future.http://hansard.millbanksystems.com/l...illennium-dome --- the first sentence.What role does ',that' execute in the above sentence.My guess is the result clause.In advance, thank you for your help.

Thomas Tompion · Accepted Answer

Hello Park Sang Joon.

I suppose a little depends on which grammar book you use. Grammarians use different words to explain this form.

For me, that represents the beginning of a verb complement.

It introduces what Lord Falconer moved; the clause specifies what he moved (proposed).

I would not call this a result clause; that is not introducing the consequence (result) of Lord Falconer's moving; it's introducing a clause which says what he moved.

I wonder if you are clear about what move means here; it means to make a formal proposal.

The capitalization of that here is bizarre. I suppose Hansard likes to draw attention to these formal proposals by capitalizing them.

Park sang joon · Answer

I'm sorry and thank you; I didn't know the meaning of 'move' this sentence.
In the sentence, the 'that clause' is the objective clause. isn't it?

Why does comma need in the sentence?

CalifJim · Answer

park sang joonWhat role does ',that' execute in the above sentence.

It's the beginning of a content clause, which is the complement of the verb "move".

The punctuation is a special kind of punctuation for official documents.

CJ

Fivejedjon · Answer

5 [with object] Propose for discussion and resolution at a meeting or legislative assembly: she intends to move an amendment to the bill [with clause]: I beg to move that this House deplores the current economic policies

http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/us/definition/american_english/move

Park sang joon · Answer

I was much confused. By the grammar term used in Korea, the complement modify the subject through the linked verb, and general verb have an affect object.

I could see 'content clause' in Wiki on googling; As far as I understand 'content clause' of Wiki, 'declarative content clauses' consist of 'object clause' and 'appositive clause', so at least in Korea, the 'that' in question looks like a object clause.

Please, would give me a much more specific account about 'comma' used for official documents.

Thank you very much CJ.

Park sang joon · Answer

Thank you so much, fivejedjon.

CalifJim · Answer

park sang joonthe complement modify the subject through the linked verb

Yes. That's called a subject complement. The word "complement" can be used for anything that "completes" the meaning of some other element in a sentence.

park sang joonthe 'that' in question looks like a object clause.

Yes. That content clause goes just where a direct object would go in the sentence, so if you are using the terminology "object clause" in your English course, then use that. Terminology varies. Use whatever is used in your course.

park sang joona much more specific account about 'comma' used for official documents.

I'm afraid I don't know very much about it. Most of us are never in the position of having to write such documents, so we never learn the special rules. It's enough just to know that these documents sometimes contain punctuation that is not used in other kinds of writing.

CJ

Park sang joon · Answer

I was very satisfied by with your post encouraging me.
Thank you Very~much, CalifJim.
I think this forum is the best forum ^^

Anonymous · Answer

I'm in the US, and my interpretation of this is that it is a record of a House of Lords proceeding in the UK. My understanding of the House of Lords is that it is a largely figurehead body and has no legislative power. Therefore their proceedings are essentially ceremonial, that is, they just get up and speak, at great length and in a very learned fashion, on various issues.

Everything about their proceedings is very formal and ceremonial, as shown here. Lord Falconer gets up and speaks, but instead of just saying: "I'm going to speak about the Millennium Dome.", he says: "(I move) That [this capitalization in the middle of a sentence is very formal writing; you see this in the King James Bible] this House [of Lords] takes note of the planning, management and operation of the Millennium Dome and of its future." And he then goes on to speak, at great length, about the Dome. The word "That" here is essentially ceremonial and can be omitted with no loss of meaning: "this House takes note of the planning....its future."

Park sang joon · Answer

Thank no name for your sincere answer.

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