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Park sang joon Posted 12 years ago
Grammar

The subject of to-infinitive when to-infinitive is used adverbially

These sentences are of my own making.
1) I set the alarm not for her to get up late.
2) I set the alarm for her not to get up late.

I'd like to know Why I can't use both sentences.

I have asked the similar question on another forum, I am asking for your understanding about this, but people just say I can't; please help me.

Thank you in advance for your help.
  

Top answer

Your sentence (1) implies that you set the alarm so she wouldn't get up late, however, she did anyway. This is because the phrase 'I set the alarm' does not join in a sentence to 'not for her to get up late' and 'not for her to get up late' isn't a correctly form phrase. Sentence (2) is in the correct form and so is better than (1).

— Daniel O'Connell

  • Your sentence (1) implies that you set the alarm so she wouldn't get up late, however, she did anyway.
  • This is because the phrase 'I set the alarm' does not join in a sentence to 'not for her to get up late' and 'not for her to get up late' isn't a correctly form phrase.
  • Sentence (2) is in the correct form and so is better than (1).
  • ' as it now implies the desired future tense.
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Your sentence (1) implies that you set the alarm so she wouldn't get up late, however, she did anyway. This is because the phrase 'I set the alarm' does not join in a sentence to 'not for her to get up late' and 'not for her to get up late' isn't a correctly form phrase.

Sentence (2) is in the correct form and so is better than (1). If we look at the positive form of (2):
'I set the a
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Thank you, Mr.Connell, for your elaborate answer. Emotion: smile

I think people use the subject 'for + Object' of to-infinitive without a
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No problem. Sorry, I don't know the linguistic terms you are using. English is my native language so I was going on what sounds right.
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I see.
Then, even If I used the same sentence as "I set the alarm for her not to get up late." in English community, could most people understand the exact meaning of the sentence?
By any chance, are there people using such sentences as my example #2?
Frankly speaking, I like to use such sentences as my example #2.

I'm so sorry for badgering you.
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'I set the alarm for her not to get up late.' is fine as a sentence and everyone would understand you. It just sounds a bit grammatically awkward.
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park sang joon"I set the alarm for her not to get up late."
That sounds very strange to me.
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Thank you, Mr.Connell, for your continuing answer.
I'd like ask you one more thing.
Could I use such sentences as #2 in such tests as SAT?
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Hello, fivejedjon.
How about this?
: I received a suggestion for her to go.
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park sang joonHello, fivejedjon.How about this?: I received a suggestion for her to go.
I can't say that it's wrong, but it doesn't sound at all natural to me.
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Thank you, fivejdedjon, for your candid answer.

Don't you hear my example like this?
: I received a suggestion that she should have to go, from someone.
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