The purpose of an action / the reason for an action

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Hello,There is my connumdrum in these two phrases.If any one can clear up it, I will be extremely grateful.Thank you very much.The meaning of them (the purpose of and the reason for an action) is even with each other.For the sake of collocation, the two prepositions of "for and of" must be fixed to the way now, is it?

KrisBlueNZ · Accepted Answer

I'm not sure if I understand your question.
Are you asking whether the PURPOSE OF an action is the same as the REASON FOR the action?
They are closely related but they are not the same.
For example, if I fall into a swimming pool and sink, my action is to find the ladder and climb out. In this case, the REASON FOR the action is that I can't breathe because I'm under water, and the PURPOSE OF the action is to get my head into the air so I can breathe. Obviously they are closely related, but strictly speaking they are different.
You could perhaps argue that the REASON FOR the action is that I NEED TO get my head above water, i.e. that I NEED TO achieve the PURPOSE, in which case the REASON FOR and PURPOSE OF the action are the same, but I would disagree.
By the way, the word is CONUNDRUM.
I'm afraid I don't understand your last sentence at all.

Bepleased · Answer

Hi,
A. about the reason for the action:
When the reason confined to why the action, the reason with regard to the action.
The reason provides an excuse for the action , the action is a living party in whcih the excuse is formed or developed.

B. about the purpose of the action;
At the beginning of the action, the purpose as an intended aim was had in the mind of the action.
So, the "of" in the purpose of the action means the action is for making the purpose.
That is the reason for the "of" must be used in there.

KrisBlueNZ · Answer

bepleased, I'm sorry, I really cannot understand what you're trying to say. You need to improve your English to the point where you can form fully coherent sentences. I suspect that even if you did, I would not be able to follow your thought processes.
If you've read some of my other posts, you will be aware that I am well able to follow, formulate and clearly express logical arguments and explanations. For this reason, I suspect the communication problem does not lie with me.
I also get the strong impression that there is no clear purpose, or goal, to your expositions. They certainly don't appear to be questions; the best I can gather is that you are trying to convey some subtle wisdom that you believe you have divined about the language. My recommendation is that you learn to use the language better before you try to analyse it too deeply.
As you know, I answer questions on EnglishForward as a volunteer, and I cannot continue to justify spending a lot of time trying to understand your posts, especially when it appears that doing so would not help you, or any other user of these forums, in any meaningful way.

Bepleased · Answer

[The reason, the purpose must be collocated with "for and of"!]

If I fall into a swimming pool and sink, my action is to find the ladder and climb out.

In this case, the reason for the action is that I can't breathe because I'm under water, and the purpose of the action is to get my head into the air so I can breathe.

[A.] When asking why did you do the action?----that means the action is for what reason (here, "for" = in favor of, the action is agent), now the reason appears over its original logic space of "the cause and the action result" and comes into the new logic space of "the action result and the explanation / excuse / reason" .

In this time, we can say:

(1) By the action result is meant the reason.

(2) The action result is a living party in which its own meaning or reason is formed or developed.

(3) The action result is for the reason. (for = in favor of) And the reason is for the action. (for = with regard to)

So, the reason must be collocated with the preposition "for".

[B.] When asking what's the action for? ----that means the action is for which purpose. (here, "for" = used to show its purpose, the action is agent) At the beginning, the action result has [to get my head into the air so I can breathe] as its own purpose in the mind. The action result ends in the same purpose.

So, the purpose of the intended aim at the beginning of the action and the purpose towards which the action directed are even with each other.

We can say : the purpose is of the action. (of = belonging to ) Here, We must collocate the purpose with the preposition "of".

KrisBlueNZ · Answer

That's all still as clear as mud, I'm afraid.

Bepleased · Answer

How the result?-----the cause given to the result, with "by" / "because" /"as a result of" / "in connection with"

Why the result?-----an explanation / excuse / reason provided for the result, with "for the purpose of " /"for the reason of", where the cause becomes a reason for the result (for = with regard to) and that by the result is meant the reason.

"The reason" is confined to answer to why the result, though it is the cause of a result.

What was the purpose of the action? -----the action for which purpose.
The purpose can not be collocated with a result, only with an action.
Because the purpose with an end in an action and the purpose is either its aim or end, and that the purpose is not the cause of a result or an action, it can not provide an explanation / excuse / reason for the result or the action.

So, the relationship between the purpose and the action is that the purpose belongs to the action.

KrisBlueNZ · Answer

Mercy! I can't make head nor tail of that. I give up, sorry.

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