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The popularization of the ü sound in American English
In a lot of places in the USA, youths are using the ü sound in words like Dude, which they pronounce düd, and an occasional güd for good.
Does anybody know any other example.
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[/nq] It's not really the (y) sound, it's more like (: ). That's pretty much the realization of /u/ in many phonetic contexts, in these parts (the San Francisco Bay Area and, I believe, much more of California). " The only ones in which she did NOT use this sound were pool and stool.
- [/nq] It's not really the (y) sound, it's more like (: ).
- That's pretty much the realization of /u/ in many phonetic contexts, in these parts (the San Francisco Bay Area and, I believe, much more of California).
- " The only ones in which she did NOT use this sound were pool and stool.
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[nq:1]In a lot of places in the USA, youths are using the ü sound in words like Dude, which they pronounce düd, and an occasional güd for good.[/nq]
It's not really the (y) sound, it's more like (: ). That's pretty much the realization of /u/ in many phonetic contexts, in these parts (the San Francisco Bay Area and, I believe, much more of California).
I just asked my seven-year-old daught
It's not really the (y) sound, it's more like (: ). That's pretty much the realization of /u/ in many phonetic contexts, in these parts (the San Francisco Bay Area and, I believe, much more of California).
I just asked my seven-year-old daught
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(regarding centralized (u") for /u/:)
[nq:1]I just asked my seven-year-old daughter to pronounce the words "tune, moon, dude, rude, stew, you, hoot, boot, use, lose, ... pool, stool, stew, brew, zoo." The only ones in which she did NOT use this sound were pool and stool.[/nq]
It's a well-documented fact that, even in dialects of English that show strong fronting of /u/ and /o/, the frontin
[nq:1]I just asked my seven-year-old daughter to pronounce the words "tune, moon, dude, rude, stew, you, hoot, boot, use, lose, ... pool, stool, stew, brew, zoo." The only ones in which she did NOT use this sound were pool and stool.[/nq]
It's a well-documented fact that, even in dialects of English that show strong fronting of /u/ and /o/, the frontin
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Aaron J. Dinkin filted:
[nq:1](regarding centralized (u") for /u/:)[/nq]
[nq:2]I just asked my seven-year-old daughter to pronounce the words ... she did NOT use this sound were pool and stool.[/nq]
[nq:1]It's a well-documented fact that, even in dialects of English that show strong fronting of /u/ and /o/, the fronting does not occur, or occurs with much less intensity, before /l/.[/n
[nq:1](regarding centralized (u") for /u/:)[/nq]
[nq:2]I just asked my seven-year-old daughter to pronounce the words ... she did NOT use this sound were pool and stool.[/nq]
[nq:1]It's a well-documented fact that, even in dialects of English that show strong fronting of /u/ and /o/, the fronting does not occur, or occurs with much less intensity, before /l/.[/n
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[nq:1]In a lot of places in the USA, youths are using the ü sound in words like Dude, which they pronounce düd, and an occasional güd for good. Does anybody know any other example.[/nq]
What exactly is that sound? The "ooooo" sound? Like the long U? How else can "dude" be pronounced? It's "dooooood", right? "Good", I say with a different vowel, more like a short U. Again, how else can it be sa
What exactly is that sound? The "ooooo" sound? Like the long U? How else can "dude" be pronounced? It's "dooooood", right? "Good", I say with a different vowel, more like a short U. Again, how else can it be sa
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[nq:1](Rolf Ruhig) wrote[/nq]
[nq:2]In a lot of places in the USA, youths are ... occasional güd for good. Does anybody know any other example.[/nq]
[nq:1]What exactly is that sound? The "ooooo" sound? Like the long U? How else can "dude" be pronounced? It's "dooooood", right? "Good", I say with a different vowel, more like a short U. Again, how else can it be said?[/nq]
Somewhat like
[nq:2]In a lot of places in the USA, youths are ... occasional güd for good. Does anybody know any other example.[/nq]
[nq:1]What exactly is that sound? The "ooooo" sound? Like the long U? How else can "dude" be pronounced? It's "dooooood", right? "Good", I say with a different vowel, more like a short U. Again, how else can it be said?[/nq]
Somewhat like
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I sometimes hear them say füd for food.
But then, doesn't everyone?
Richard Maurer To reply, remove half
Sunnyvale, California of a homonym of a synonym for also.
I sometimes hear them say füd for food.
But then, doesn't everyone?
Richard Maurer To reply, remove half
Sunnyvale, California of a homonym of a synonym for also.
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[nq:1]> I sometimes hear them say füd for food. But then, doesn't everyone?[/nq]
I think an argument could be made that you can't say /y/ (the ASCII IPA representation of the phoneme in question) in English, because /y/ isn't an English phoneme. You might respond that the phoneme /u/ is being realized phonetically as (y), but I'd say you're just listening in the wrong language.
It seems
I think an argument could be made that you can't say /y/ (the ASCII IPA representation of the phoneme in question) in English, because /y/ isn't an English phoneme. You might respond that the phoneme /u/ is being realized phonetically as (y), but I'd say you're just listening in the wrong language.
It seems
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[nq:1]Aaron J. Dinkin filted:[/nq]
[nq:2](regarding centralized (u") for /u/:) It's a well-documented fact that, ... not occur, or occurs with much less intensity, before /l/.[/nq]
[nq:1]Avi, a small favor please?... Find out what she does with "smooth"...I've been using a spelling suggesting an exaggerated version of this shift as an in-joke and I'm curious whether it actually occurs in t
[nq:2](regarding centralized (u") for /u/:) It's a well-documented fact that, ... not occur, or occurs with much less intensity, before /l/.[/nq]
[nq:1]Avi, a small favor please?... Find out what she does with "smooth"...I've been using a spelling suggesting an exaggerated version of this shift as an in-joke and I'm curious whether it actually occurs in t
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[nq:1]In a lot of places in the USA, youths are using the ü sound in words like Dude, which they pronounce düd, and an occasional güd for good. Does anybody know any other example.[/nq]
You mean, as in Munster?
Jan
You mean, as in Munster?
Jan
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[nq:2]In a lot of places in the USA, youths are ... occasional g?d for good. Does anybody know any other example.[/nq]
I didn't see OP, but can this be the glottal stop? I'm very surprised.
Michael Hamm Since mid-September of 2003, BA scl Math, PBK, NYU I've been erasing too much UBE. (Email Removed) Of a reply, then, if you have been cheated,
I didn't see OP, but can this be the glottal stop? I'm very surprised.
Michael Hamm Since mid-September of 2003, BA scl Math, PBK, NYU I've been erasing too much UBE. (Email Removed) Of a reply, then, if you have been cheated,
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