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The most unexpected oriental etymology

I wonder how many English words have Oriental roots when you expect it the least.
Take the word hamster, for example. It appears that the word is English. I am told however that the animal is mentioned as hamaestar in the Avesta.
The Scyths called them hamaestars, or "enemy hurling to the ground", because in order to get the corn hamsters have to bend corn stems to the ground.
Are there are any other examples of that sort?
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Paulinette
  

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[nq:1]I wonder how many English words have Oriental roots when you expect it the least. Take the word hamster, for ... the corn hamsters have to bend corn stems to the ground.

  • [nq:1]I wonder how many English words have Oriental roots when you expect it the least.
  • Take the word hamster, for ...
  • the corn hamsters have to bend corn stems to the ground.
  • [/nq] Could we see the morphological analysis whereby "hamaestars" equates to 'enemy hurling to the ground' and also the source of this etymology?
  • Have you uncovered some hitherto unknown source revealing elements of the Scythian language?
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[nq:1]I wonder how many English words have Oriental roots when you expect it the least. Take the word hamster, for ... the corn hamsters have to bend corn stems to the ground. Are there are any other examples of that sort?[/nq]
Could we see the morphological analysis whereby "hamaestars" equates to 'enemy hurling to the ground' and also the source of this etymology? Have you uncovered some hit
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, of Slavic origin, akin to ORuss 'hamster', of Iranian origin, akin to Av. (which I take to be ) 'oppressor'.
Brian
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[nq:2]Could we see the morphological analysis whereby "hamaestars"equates to 'enemy ... uncovered some hitherto unknown sourcerevealing elements of the Scythian language?[/nq]
[nq:1]MW Online says that it's from OHG , of Slavic origin, akin to ORuss 'hamster', of Iranian origin, akin to Av. (which I take to be ) 'oppressor'.[/nq]
Let's not forget the OS hamstrafe for "corn-weevil".
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[nq:1]expect hamaestar ground", to equates revealing[/nq]
[nq:2]MW Online says that it's from OHG , of Slavic ... to Av. (which I take to be ) 'oppressor'.[/nq]
[nq:1]Let's not forget the OS hamstrafe for "corn-weevil".[/nq]
AHD chooses not to trace it any further back than the Old Slavic.
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[nq:1]I wonder how many English words have Oriental roots when you expect it the least. Take the word hamster, for example. It appears that the word is English. I am told however that the animal is mentioned as hamaestar in the Avesta.[/nq]
"Hamaestar" or "hamestar" is a common word in Avestan, where it means "enemy" or "opponent"; it also means the "opposite" side of a duality.

Those
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[nq:2]Could we see the morphological analysis whereby "hamaestars" equates to ... some hitherto unknown source revealing elements of the Scythian language?[/nq]
[nq:1]MW Online says that it's from OHG , of Slavic origin, akin to ORuss 'hamster', of Iranian origin, akin to Av. (which I take to be ) 'oppressor'.[/nq]
Can't you see those poor little hamsters oppressing the corn (scil. wheat
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[nq:1]I wonder how many English words have Oriental roots when you expect it theleast. Take the word hamster, for example. ... the corn hamsters have to bend corn stems to the ground. Are there are any other examples of that sort?[/nq]
My contributon is more occidental than oriental. I understand that the Danish word for a cricket (insect) is 'faarekylling', which translates literally into eng
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[nq:1]Can't you see those poor little hamsters oppressing the corn (scil. wheat) stems by bending or hurling them to the ground?[/nq]
Only in something by Brian Jacques.
Brian
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[nq:1]I wonder how many English words have Oriental roots when you expect it the least.[/nq]
Isn't "Oriental" now considered racist? I thought the proper term was "Asian"...?
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[nq:2]I wonder how many English words have Oriental roots when you expect it the least.[/nq]
[nq:1]Isn't "Oriental" now considered racist? I thought the proper term was "Asian"...?[/nq]
Considered by whom?
The Oriental Orthodoc Churches will be pleased to hear that they are now the Asian Orthodox Churches especially those in Egypt.

Steve Hayes from Tshwane, South Africa

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